Rerun: Murder Coffee

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,360 Hello everyone, welcome to No Bad Reviews, colon, a coffee podcast. We are here with a rerun. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,360 We decided to take a summer break because life is crazy and it's really hard to take a vacation 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:21,920 for Marcus and I because that week that we get off we just do the week before. So we really do 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:29,360 like two weeks worth of work in one week. And so to try to put a podcast episode in was feeling 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:35,520 a little overwhelming. So the three of us talked and decided we would replay one of our and a fan 6 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:41,200 favorite episode, one of our most popular episodes. Yeah, yeah thanks to the Iron Bean Nation. 7 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:47,200 Murder Coffee. The Murder Coffee Company. Yeah, right. What a cheerful episode. 8 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,360 We learned that's definitely a great episode. We learned a little bit about coffee and murder. 9 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,400 A little bit about the history of like humankind's fascination with murder and true crime. 10 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,440 Yeah, which I thought was actually really interesting. Yeah, more of a curiosity. So 11 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:12,320 without further ado, we hope you enjoy this, our most popular episode, one of our most popular 12 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:18,400 episodes, Murder Coffee. And then we'll be back next week with one of our regularly scheduled 13 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,400 episodes. Brand new, super fresh. We don't know what it's even going to be out. It's so fresh. 14 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:27,520 Freshly toasted. I got an idea. Oh cool. Because I'm the next one, right? Well, I thought maybe we 15 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,240 were just skipping over you. I thought this was maybe an elaborate trick to get out of doing your 16 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:37,040 week of research. A ruse, if you will. Where I'm like, oh we're just going to replay one of my old 17 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:44,800 episodes. Right. And then it's my turn again? Well, we'll talk about that. So nobody knows what's 18 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:51,120 coming next week. Not even us. Yeah. So if you want to find out, tune in two weeks. We'll be releasing 19 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:57,200 it and it'll be great and fun. And in the meantime, enjoy this episode. And we will enjoy our vacation. 20 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,120 Thanks everyone. And I will enjoy running the coffee company in their absence. Steph's going 21 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:22,000 to get a taste of CEO. A three letter taste. Pass. Thanks everybody. 22 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:39,520 Hello and welcome to No Bad Reviews, calling a coffee podcast. Love it. Is it a punk rock episode? 23 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:47,920 Sure. Why not? I'm Jenny and I run all of the operations at a coffee company. And I'm Marcus 24 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:54,320 and I am also a runner of roastery equipment and you know doing the thing, Jenny and Steph. 25 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,800 I'm looking at- And you are an award-winning coffee roaster. That's what they say. And soon it's going 26 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:06,160 to be time to start working on this upcoming- Oh, very excited about that. So for Modest Coffee, 27 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:12,160 we will- that's a company in case you guys didn't know. We are going to be starting all of the 28 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:17,200 roasting and the preparations for Good Food Awards. So this last year we didn't get to 29 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,480 release mystery bags. This year we're going to release mystery bags again, which is going to be 30 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:26,080 fun. This is like an in-air ad. You know a host read ad when they do that? When they slip an ad in. 31 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,880 But we're going to be transparent about it. That I guess is an ad. Well, I didn't intend for this to be an ad, but here we are. 32 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,120 I'm Stephanie and I also work at a coffee company that I don't need to advertise. 33 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Yeah, why not? Don't. This is a podcast. We're three pals. We work together at the same place. 34 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:51,840 We're coffee professionals. And so we're here to try a coffee. We're going to give it no bad reviews 35 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:59,280 because there's something good about every coffee deep down inside, right? Yeah, for sure. We'll find the good in every coffee. 36 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Sometimes the good is the whiskey. Oh yeah, I mean look. That's in the coffee. 37 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:10,400 Look, we're not here to say which way is the best way to enjoy coffee. We're just here to find 38 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,280 something not bad to say about it. You know, it is the journey, definitely. Not the destination. 39 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:21,920 It's beautiful, you guys. Yeah, we're poetic this morning. Poetic punk rockers. 40 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Do we have any clarifications, guys? Okay, so we recorded these episodes out of order, so I can't 41 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:34,000 make a clarification about the last episode because it hasn't aired yet. So I'm going to make a prediction. 42 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:41,520 After drinking the quote unquote coffee in the next episode, I will have a tummy ache all day. 43 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:48,640 Oh no. I do have one clarification that I am massively embarrassed about. Oh no, what did you do? 44 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:54,400 And I'm surprised we only had one person shouting at us. I said George McFly went back in time. 45 00:04:54,400 --> 00:05:01,680 It was Marty McFly. Oh, I didn't even catch that. Yeah. None of us caught it. When I was called out 46 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:07,920 about that publicly on the internet, I was first of all, how did I make that mistake? One of my 47 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:13,760 favorite movies of all time. Watched it on repeat as a kid. Loved that movie. Don't know how I made 48 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:19,680 that mistake. It was Marty McFly that went back in time and invented rock and roll. 49 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:31,840 So thanks, Eric, for clarifying me. I appreciate it. I think that's the only clarifications that I have. 50 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,440 Yeah, I haven't made any mistakes. I'm going to have to go to the report. 51 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,360 Well, we haven't been called out on anything yet. And I think we're caught up on a lot of things 52 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:45,360 that we were wondering about. Let's see. You can give us money. Oh, is it time to make the bacon? 53 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:51,440 I guess so. Sure. Just rolling along. Yeah. 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And so if you want to also join, just send us an 74 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:55,760 email at hello at no bad reviews podcast.com or send us a message on social media that includes a 75 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:02,400 screenshot of the little check mark that says you're following our podcast and we will enter you in. 76 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:07,600 Congratulations, Brian. Congrats. This is so exciting. So I think that's all the business we have. 77 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Cool. Unless you guys have business. No, it's summer, easy days. Marcus and I were talking about 78 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,240 funny t-shirt ideas. I guess that's business. Yeah. But we'll let you know about those when they come 79 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:24,400 out. So I had this idea once that I was like, I wonder if there's like a true crime murder coffee 80 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,760 out there. So I Googled murder coffee and I found something that was a little more disturbing than I 81 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:36,640 was expecting. I don't know what I was expecting, but I wasn't expecting something so murderous. 82 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:46,320 So like I have an interest in like true crime. I also, when I was in college, studied anthropology. 83 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:53,360 So I have an interest in like skeletons and bones. Like the idea of like regular dead bodies freaks 84 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,760 me out. Like decomposing bodies. Like freshly dead. Yeah. I don't love that. Yeah. But I would love to 85 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,240 be the person who's called in to like examine skeletal remains and figure out what happened to 86 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:07,040 them. After they've been picked clean. You're like, oh cool. Yeah, exactly. So I probably could have 87 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:13,520 been, or maybe still could be one day, a skeleton expert. I still want to excavate our barn, like 88 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:20,160 legit like archeologist style, like wall it off with string and like go layer by layer. It sounds 89 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:26,480 super boring, but I'll hang out and have a beer and watch you. Yeah, I would too. Get a little tarp and 90 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:34,160 tent and let you go to town. And Marcus and stuff will be in the tent drinking beers encouraging me. 91 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:39,280 I wonder if there's like a cow skull or something under there. I've always wanted a cow skull. What 92 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:44,320 if that's like a horse burial ground? Cause I mean, it's a horse barn. Maybe it's a horse burial 93 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:49,440 ground. Oh my God. How big a hole do you have to dig to bury a fucking horse? Yeah, seriously. A 94 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,840 horse size hole for sure. Yeah. I mean, that'd be a big ass hole. What does it really honestly do 95 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:58,960 with horses? Did they like burn them? I mean, were they really digging holes that big? Back in the 96 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:04,720 day? Yeah. I mean, that's a good question. Cremating it makes sense, but that'd be a giant fire you'd 97 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:10,080 have to. That's true. There were a ton of horses back then though. Well, if anybody knows how they 98 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:17,440 disposed of dead horses back in the day before cars, let us know. So I think that like having an 99 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:26,560 interest in like death, murder, or the grotesque is like a normal biological thing. Morbid curiosity, 100 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:32,480 you know, like having an interest in that is normal. Back like 30 years ago, the scientist 101 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:38,000 guy named Zuckerman, he developed a curiosity experiment. And he was like, Oh, I'm going to 102 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:47,200 develop a curiosity about morbid events scale. So when I was doing my research for this, I actually 103 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,760 was able to go to some like scientific stuff. So I found this one scientific paper that was trying 104 00:10:51,760 --> 00:11:00,480 to develop a new morbid curiosity scale to kind of measure it. Our general population has shifted so 105 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,560 much into morbidity that now they were like resetting the scale. Is that what they're trying to do? 106 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:10,720 Well, I would argue that we are maybe less fascinated by morbid curiosity in some ways 107 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:16,080 nowadays. Back in the day, like that show was fucked up. Like if you think back to like the Romans, 108 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:21,920 Oh, yeah. You know, and like the Colosseum, we're not like putting people getting murdered by animals 109 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:27,440 on display anymore. Yeah, that's a good point. Right? Yeah. Public flayings, hangings, lynchings. 110 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,320 Yeah. Lynchings was like a public display. Gross. People were fucked up. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Back in 111 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:38,720 like the 1800s, like Civil War days, there was a photographer named Alexander Gardner, and he 112 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:46,160 was taking pictures of the dead during the Civil War. And this was the first time that photographs 113 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,760 of dead people were like made publicly available. And people were fascinated just by like the 114 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:57,760 pictures of the dead. He dragged a Confederate corpse from Gettysburg out of the burial line, 115 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:03,840 and then artfully arranged this body in a different place so he could take better and like 116 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,680 more grotesque photos of it. The lighting was better on the other side of the hill or whatever. 117 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,520 And like him taking these pictures like allowed him to like go off and like start his own 118 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,000 photography business and like support himself as like an independent photographer all on these 119 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:25,680 like death photos. So I'm sorry, these photos were like intentionally grotesque. It wasn't like a way 120 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:30,240 of identifying or a way of showing like the horrors of war. It was like, look at this guy's 121 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,240 intestines kind of shit. I think it was like a little bit of both. He started out just taking 122 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:41,680 pictures of the dead in the war and then kind of moved into this repositioning of dead bodies to 123 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:47,040 like get a better or more sensational photo. So he kind of- Keep war buying it. Yeah. He kind of 124 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:54,480 figured out what people wanted. And then he was the only photographer allowed at the hanging of 125 00:12:54,480 --> 00:13:01,120 the conspirators of Abraham Lincoln's murder. There was a picture that he took of the people hanging 126 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:07,600 under the gallows and then all of the people like lined up on a wall to watch it. And like his photos 127 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,880 were published and people looked at them. So yeah, going back to that scale, it never actually really 128 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:18,960 got like wide use because it wasn't really scientifically sound research that created it. 129 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:26,880 But these guys who developed it, their conclusion was that the driving factor behind morbid curiosity 130 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,160 was an individual's need for novel stimulation and arousal. And they found that males scored 131 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:37,040 higher on the Kame scale. Oh, big surprise. Yeah. And that scores on the Kame scale positively 132 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:43,680 correlated with sensation seeking. Okay. This was back in 1986. So this was a while back, 133 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:49,760 almost 40 years now. And most of it, he based it on like people who are witnessing violence. 134 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,560 So yes, there are people who are like kind of twisted, who are like really into violence and 135 00:13:54,560 --> 00:14:00,560 like witnessing the violence. But in this article, this paper I was reading, written by Colton 136 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:07,280 Scrivener. So this guy, Colton Scrivener is like working on developing a new scale. A new new? 137 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:14,640 A new new scale. He believes that morbid curiosity drives individuals to learn about 138 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:20,320 aspects of life that are perceived to be dangerous. So it's really not about the violence and the act 139 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:26,800 and like the end result. The fascination is really about the events that led to the event happening. 140 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,520 So when you're thinking back on, you know, photographs of war, it's like, yeah, there's 141 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,360 the dead bodies, but it also kind of helps illustrate everything that happened during 142 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,800 the war. And then it, I mean, that's not necessarily a bad thing, I think, because, 143 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,520 you know, you hear these tales of war and it's easy to be disconnected. But when you see the 144 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,320 photos or you see the footage, then it makes it, oh shit, this is actually real. Right? 145 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:53,920 Yeah. They say that Vietnam would have gone on for longer if they hadn't shown so much on the news 146 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,560 because it really turned people off from what was going on there. Well, and then it's proof too. 147 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:05,120 Somebody can be like, oh, everything's going, you know, top notch and we're winning just fine. 148 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,720 Don't worry about it. But then, you know, the photos and the photographic evidence, 149 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:16,560 I think there is like a line between sensationalizing. I know like criticisms of the true crime genre are 150 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:23,280 people profiting off of, you know, the tragedies of others and not necessarily giving money back 151 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:29,040 to the families that they're profiting on. So I think that that's a good criticism. But then on 152 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:34,960 the other hand, if we didn't know that you should look both ways before you cross the street, 153 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,880 we could then put yourself in a dangerous position. It's like, oh, what happened to that guy? And it's 154 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:44,240 like, didn't look both ways. Kind of. Yeah. So it's like a, it's almost like a survival instinct. It 155 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:50,800 sounds like where you're like, what? Yeah. So you can learn from this dead person, like how to not 156 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:57,040 be that person. Right. Yeah. So that's the evolutionary basis. It's totally a hundred percent 157 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:03,600 normal for people to have these interests in death or, you know, disease. Yeah. Things like that. But 158 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,240 I think that there's like a lot of shame around like true crime. And I don't understand the 159 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:14,160 psychology behind this, like the puritanical values. Oh, it's lowbrow to be interested in that 160 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,880 murder story. But these are like, why are they, why are they? Cheap thrills. That's why it's probably 161 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:25,200 perceived that way. But why is it like, why is like survival considered a cheap thrill? Like that's a 162 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,480 question that like I kept thinking about. All you need to know about how to survive is right there 163 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:37,040 in the Bible. Yeah. You don't need to be reading these awful, what were the old magazines that had 164 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:43,760 the, um, the stories? The Penny Dreadfuls. I don't know if that's a real thing, but I love it. 165 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,400 Well, there were like, there were publications, like true crime publications. They went back to 166 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:59,920 like the 1500s actually. Oh wow. It was like huge. British authors and printers, they were printing 167 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:05,040 like every single crime story that they could print. A lot of times they were just like little 168 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:12,720 leaflets, maybe like six to 20 pages, not a full book, not a regular newspaper. A zine? Yes, it was a zine. 169 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,120 So they were printing like murder zines and people were super into them. Then they were like, there 170 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:25,120 were ballads, which were like narrative verses. I don't know exactly what a ballad is. What would 171 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:30,720 be a, what's a ballad? Is it like a little mini song story? Yeah. Is that like Sweeney Todd? 172 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,840 Like that was another Penny Dreadful. Like that's where it came from, I think. I love that name. 173 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,240 So yeah, a ballad I think is just a song that's sung kind of like you can hear the words. It's 174 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:47,280 like a, I love ballads or what I'm used to. Yeah. But murder ballads are cool too. I'll quote it. It 175 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:53,120 says they were narrative verses recounting the dastardly deeds of England's most notorious. 176 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:58,400 They're printed on broad sides. They're posted around cities and towns. Also trial accounts were 177 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:05,280 provided a broad swath of society. So like whatever was happening during the trials of these murderers 178 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:10,400 was like published to all of the people. Like nothing was kept secret. Do you have any murder 179 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:15,440 ballads that you want to sing to us? You know what? I'll have to find one for you for our next 180 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,240 episode. I will clarify myself with a murder ballad for you. That'd be great. No, actually, I was 181 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,760 actually listening to a true crime podcast. I can't remember what one it was, but they were 182 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:30,480 talking about murder ballads in those mountains to the east. Appalachia. Appalachia and the 183 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:38,480 Appalachian murder ballads. Huge thing in like the early 1900s. I will definitely pull one of those 184 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,280 up and play the song because they still sing them now. And so they were always like kind of like 185 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:48,720 cautionary tales. I'm thinking about like ring around the rosy was about a plague or something. 186 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,520 Yeah. And wasn't, I can't remember what London Bridge is. London Bridge falling down is when 187 00:18:53,520 --> 00:19:02,480 that guy took it over to Lake Cabasu in Arizona. Wasn't that about a war of something? I cannot 188 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:07,440 recall, but it seems like little kids sing a lot of sad songs and it seems like it would make sense 189 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:14,000 to have the kids like don't forget that you might get sick and die singing a song and it'll help you 190 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:20,240 remember not to play with your sick friend or something. I don't know how you like getting the plague. 191 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:25,520 London Bridge is falling down rhyme. The use of a medieval punishment known as 192 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,560 ammurement. Do you know what that is? Oh, I've heard of it. Ammurement is when a person is encased 193 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:36,800 into a room with no openings or exits and left there to die. Oh God. Oh, that reminded me of 194 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:42,480 like Cascava Montalvo, the Edgar Allen Poe. Vincent Price did a movie of it. These two guys are 195 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,360 neighbors and he like convinces his like neighborly friend to like go down to the crypt and to find 196 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:51,600 this old bottle of wine and then help him like build a wall and then the guy like seals himself 197 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:57,520 into this crypt and then that's how the poem ends. Yikes. See, we all have a little bit of a 198 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:04,320 morbid curiosity, don't we? Stories like that even though you figure like horror stories go all the 199 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:09,040 way back to like the ancient Greeks and a lot of mythological stories and then the Bible, there's 200 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,520 like a lot of fucked up shit that happens. This has been going on for all of time, all of written 201 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:21,440 time and probably pre-written time. I do kind of feel like this murder coffee company. Is this, 202 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,400 this is called Murder Coffee Company? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's kind of, it's called the Murder Coffee 203 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:32,800 Company. So you literally did a Google search. Murder Coffee. Murder Coffee. And then the Murder 204 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,200 Coffee Company popped up. Yes. Okay. That's exactly what happened. Cool. There's not a whole lot of 205 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:45,200 murder coffee companies out there. Just go figure. Kind of a niche segment. This whole company, this 206 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:51,680 murder coffee company, their tagline is fueled by fresh coffee and true crime. 207 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,760 The whole thing is a vibe. You kind of have to experience the vibe for yourself to fully 208 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:05,760 understand the vibe. Okay. So I'm going to try to tell you guys. So it's like, is it a lifestyle 209 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:12,160 brand? I'm super into murder and I'm super into coffee. Is that what they're selling here? 210 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:20,240 Okay. I'm trying to understand. So going back to the beginning of the episode and everything that 211 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:26,160 we've just talked about, I think it's okay to be interested in true crime. I think it's okay 212 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:33,680 to be interested in horror. Horror movies, people love horror movies. And that's not even necessarily 213 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,720 like a survival thing, but that I think taps into that adrenaline rush. Oh, that's like the literal 214 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:44,560 only subscription I have is to shutter for like streaming media. Oh yeah, for sure. And like, how 215 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:50,160 do you feel when you watch a horror movie? Cheap thrills, baby. I love them. Getting that adrenaline 216 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:56,800 kick. Do you feel like kind of better afterwards in some ways? You know, it's like a weird comforting 217 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,280 space. These are like the movie rejects. And I'm like, these are like my movies. These are my people. 218 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,000 Yeah. You feel like a reject? I do. You're not a reject. Well, thanks Jenny. I don't fit in with 219 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:13,840 like Tom Cruise. Yeah. You know, I fit in with like the fucking D movie star that's like, you know, 220 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,400 running from an imaginary like elf or something like that. You know, trying to kill him. Somebody has to be 221 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:25,360 into those. That's my people. What about you, Steph? You're not a true crime person. Not really. I 222 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:30,480 listened to one or two true crime podcasts that I found interesting, but I definitely don't like 223 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:36,080 anything gruesome or scary. I don't like anything with scary music. I do not watch scary movies at 224 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:44,640 all. Yesterday, somehow came across a story about this hitchhiker girl in the 70s who got kidnapped 225 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:49,920 and locked in a box. And there's a movie about her. Oh, I do remember hearing about this story. I like 226 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:55,680 read the article and then I had like the exact opposite feeling afterwards, like a deep regret 227 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:01,600 that I had exposed myself to this horror story. Like I don't want to know this stuff. So it's funny 228 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:07,200 though. It's like, I like horror movies. I like fake horror. Okay. But like I don't like true crime for the 229 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,240 reason that I'm like, man, reality is so fucked. It's unsettling to me when I learn about the true 230 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,120 shit that people do to each other. It's fucking horrible. That's an important distinction. I guess 231 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:23,200 I'd much, if I had to pick one, I'd prefer true crime over horror. I really like, I don't know what it 232 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:29,360 is. I don't believe in ghosts, but a movie with scary music about a ghost is way more terrifying 233 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:34,480 to me. Yeah, totally. Even though I know it's ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like horror movies at all. 234 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:40,000 Last horror movie I watched was Saw and I was sure and certain that was going to happen to me. I can't 235 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:46,400 watch it. I am more horrified that people come up with these demented stories. Every so often there's 236 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:52,720 a murderer, which also is fucked up to me. But most of the time, like murderers aren't doing saw type 237 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:58,000 murder shit. So the fact that like that story exists in somebody's brain freaks me the fuck out. 238 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,880 And then just like the fact that I identify too closely, like that could legitimately happen to 239 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,520 me. So I had to go back to my garden apartment that I lived in by myself after I watched that movie 240 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:16,960 and not sleep for three days until I emotionally recovered. Let's play a game, Jenny. No, that's not. 241 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:24,320 I've always been like interested in mysteries. And like Nancy Drew, loved Nancy Drew when I was a kid, 242 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,320 read every single one of the old school ones. And then there was like a series that came out in like 243 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,960 the eighties. I read every single one of those. So like even as a kid, I was always interested in 244 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,600 that stuff and trying to understand the psychology behind it. Like how could this happen? I guess 245 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,280 that's maybe why I went into study anthropology eventually, was trying to understand like how 246 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,960 these things happen. So then how did this happen with the coffee? And I'm pointing out the coffee 247 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:50,480 how did this happen? Yeah. So let me go ahead and read some of this Tio. Murder Coffee Company is 248 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:55,520 small batch fresh roasted coffee company. We are committed to the support of true crime mystery, 249 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,480 investigative and cold case podcasters. Most importantly, we directly support the victims 250 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:06,320 of violent crime and 10% of their profits are donated. The National Centers for Victims of 251 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,760 Crime, the Innocence Project, Innocence Project. That's a good one. So important, right? Yeah. So 252 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:18,320 it sounds like they're trying to do good. Yeah. Their bag is kind of creepy. Their font is kind 253 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,120 of creepy. So it's like kind of going into the sensationalizing side of it. It's like a red, 254 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:29,600 it's the word murder and red with like drips of blood. Yeah. Then like you go like the, 255 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:35,600 this one is called turning blue. It's a blueberry flavored coffee. Oh, it's blueberry flavored on 256 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,440 top of it. That's funny. Yeah. I feel like they missed an opportunity to call it black and blue, 257 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,640 but whatever. Well, this is how they, this is how they describe this coffee on their website. 258 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:50,400 Strangulation, parentheses strangling is when something presses or squeezes on your neck. 259 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,440 The squeezing may stop the blood supply going to your brain or may stop the air from going to your 260 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:01,200 lungs. You will lose consciousness, parentheses black out and stop breathing, causing your lips 261 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:08,480 to turn blue. Oh, so that to me, like is a different vibe than raising money for the Innocence Project. 262 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,360 Yeah. So like the whole thing. And let's make it blueberry flavored. Okay. All right. There's 263 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:20,160 a couple of stretch. I feel like doing a stretch to make it fit. It's the vibe of this coming across 264 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:26,880 to you guys. It's really, I can see how this would be appealing to someone. It is not appealing to me, 265 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,600 but I can see how it would be appealing. Sure. Like if you're super into like EDM maybe. 266 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:39,920 Is that where they press flesh? Industrial music. Oh, I thought you were talking about like some 267 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:45,440 sort of sexual act. Oh, electronic dance music. Okay. It's, I thought we were talking about like 268 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,640 strangling during sex. Oh, um, what is that called? I thought it was also an acronym. 269 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:58,720 There you go. Boom. Good job. Okay. So that sounds like an acronym to me because it's all anyways. So 270 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:05,040 like that whole like reading that whole thing, like as somebody who is interested in true crime 271 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,760 and you're interested in horror and you're interested in just being chill, I feel like this 272 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,680 makes me feel like that description makes me feel a little uncomfortable. Like, I mean like 273 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,080 strangulation is something that really fucking sucks, man. Like we shouldn't be making a blueberry 274 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:27,600 coffee to like illustrate strangulation. I think that what's on the back of the bag and what's on 275 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:33,280 the website illustrates like the difference between true crime and horror. Like I feel like 276 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,000 that description on the website is trying to be a little like horror movie and the description on 277 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,680 the bag is more of like a... Yeah, I don't know. At the end of the day, I guess if it's cause driven 278 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,920 and it's going somewhere, like, like it's, there's a fantasy on the front end, but in the back end, 279 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,760 you know, if it all works itself out, maybe. I feel a little uncomfortable. Do the ends justify 280 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,800 the means, Jenny? I feel a little uncomfortable with like the glorification of murder, which is 281 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,280 what this kind of feels like to me. It's like sensationalizing, it's kind of glorifying. It's 282 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:06,720 kind of, what is it when you take something really serious and just like kind of make light of it? 283 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:18,240 Auto erotic is... But I feel like you could say that about something like law and order or, I mean, 284 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:23,840 all of these things are just like taking a real person's real trauma and sensationalizing it, 285 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:31,280 regardless of how serious they're trying to present it. You know? I don't know. I feel weird 286 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,280 about it. I don't think they're promoting death, like killing people. That's what I guess it does 287 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,760 feel like a little bit to me. It kind of like makes light of murdering. Like, oh, we're going to 288 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,480 strangle all of the air out of you and then pour blueberry coffee in your face. Yeah. That's what 289 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,320 I'm saying. Like you can't take that seriously because of the blueberry flavoring. Like I feel 290 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,120 like if blueberry flavoring is involved, like you just can't take it seriously at that point. 291 00:28:53,120 --> 00:29:00,480 So it's definitely a joke. But then do we want to joke about strangulation? Because like as a woman 292 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,520 and somebody who's lived with the fear of being assaulted my entire life, that freaks me out. 293 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,240 Yeah. Well, why can you make a movie about it, but you can't write a paragraph on your website 294 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,320 about it? Like what's the difference there? I guess it's like the level of seriousness, 295 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,360 right? Like I feel like law and order, it's not a comedy about a crime that happened to somebody. 296 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:25,200 It's a drama. It has a tone of seriousness. Okay. Like I think like an appropriate level 297 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,520 about of seriousness, right? I take issue with that because like, for example, scary movie, 298 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,320 like I think a lot of horror movies are sort of tongue in cheek, aren't they? I love that. 299 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,800 The humor in horror movies are so fucking funny sometimes. Okay. I don't know. I think it's in, 300 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,440 I'm just saying I don't think it's awesome. I just think it's in keeping. I guess if they were like 301 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,440 a horror movie coffee company, then it would be one thing, but it feels like they're billing 302 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:53,520 themselves as a true crime coffee company. Okay. They're not like a fictionalized horror. Yeah. 303 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:59,040 They're like a true crime. Even their website says, um, this is for true crime fan fans. 304 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,240 And it reads as a little bit like performing of the crime is kind of how that reads. I think that 305 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,600 you're hitting on what the, like the uncomfortableness that I'm feeling. Yeah. The glorification of the 306 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:15,200 crime and the act of the crime and not just the telling of the story. Yeah. Gotcha. There's no 307 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:20,560 cautionary tale there. There's no honoring of a victim. Like sometimes you just gotta fucking 308 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:26,480 choke somebody out. Yeah. Drink my blueberry coffee. They will honor the victim with the delicious 309 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:36,160 flavor. So yeah. And actually I think like talking about this kind of dichotomy of this, like wanting 310 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:44,640 to do good, but also being kind of abrasive and edgy in a slightly offensive way actually kind of 311 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:51,280 sums up how I feel a little bit about the owner of this company. So I'm reading through whatever 312 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,400 I can find on this murder coffee company and it says they've partnered with the iron bean coffee 313 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,760 company because the quality of their coffee is pure mouth. Okay. So iron bean is the actual coffee 314 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,960 company that roasts it. That's what you would think. Right. Right. I'm on the murder coffee 315 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:13,920 company's website and I take their company phone number and I Google it and it is the iron coffee 316 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:20,320 company is the murder. Oh. Which is weird to me that they were like we love iron bean coffee 317 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,600 company so we've decided to partner with iron bean coffee company because they match our values. 318 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,520 No one matches your values better than your own self. 319 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:38,960 Wait it's a closed loop? Are you serious? It's a closed loop. Okay. And so. So this is just a line. 320 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:46,160 This is like a side project for the guy who owns the iron bean coffee company. Okay. Who is also a 321 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:54,800 very intense in your face I'm kind of scared of him sort of guy. Okay. So it's him and his wife. 322 00:31:54,800 --> 00:32:01,280 He used to work as a railroad supervisor doing something on the railroad and he just had an 323 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,000 interest in coffee. So him and his wife in her childhood there was a coffee shop that she used 324 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,320 to always go to and it was super welcoming and they were super nice so she just always had this 325 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:16,080 dream of opening up a coffee shop and so life it's hard to start up a company so they started doing 326 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,880 it as a side thing and then he was able to quit his job. Said like 20 years they were working on 327 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,760 this dream of opening a coffee company so they had a while to plan and save for it. I think it's now 328 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,960 his full-time gig. They only started like 2016 I think so not that long ago but he has like a ton 329 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:37,120 of followers on social media like 20,000 followers on Facebook and like 15,000 on Instagram. He is 330 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:44,880 mega into promoting himself and his coffee company. He is an intense fucking guy retired marine core 331 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:52,880 guy so he's kind of like super gigantic super muscly. He yells in every single video with 332 00:32:52,880 --> 00:33:00,400 incredible intensity. It's like I'm scared to even do this podcast about him but he also. 333 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,320 And Jenny's kind of an intense person too. Oh no no no he is incredibly 334 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,720 and there's a lot of shouting. His wife seems very nice and like just a really nice midwestern 335 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:19,120 Ohio lady they're located in Ohio. He's an arm wrestling champ. Okay cool. Giant fucking muscles 336 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:25,600 like tree trunk muscles on his arms. Geez. Tall like bulky and he has like that short haircut 337 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:32,800 that the marine guys have but then like he's taking his coffee truck out to like NRA 338 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,760 like things and then he's like got like some coffees on there. There's like a gun one with like a 339 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:46,000 AK-47 on there but it doesn't seem like he tries to get very political. He like bills himself 340 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,160 still as like a veteran owned company and everything but what also kind of freaks me out he has like 341 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,840 what he's called the iron bean nation. It's like a cult of followers. They have their own Facebook 342 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:02,080 page. Cool. Where they're all obsessed with mugs like he puts out these limited edition like 250 343 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,200 mugs and everybody's obsessed with them. If you go to the Facebook page their names are Fred and 344 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,920 Chanel Dedrick. They're like hey Fred hey Chanel look at my mug thanks for my mug. Everybody's 345 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:17,360 obsessed with the mug I don't understand it but whatever. Hey man. Everybody's got a thing. Yeah 346 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,080 but it definitely has a little bit of like cult vibes to me you know where people are like super 347 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,840 obsessed with him super obsessed with his wife. They make memes this guy but I think he comes to 348 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:33,200 like his business with like an intensity that also kind of freaks me out like he's like super into 349 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,840 the social media. He's always making memes. He's always like putting his bags of coffee in your 350 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:44,800 face. I think this guy's a guy that does everything to like the 1000th max. You know and I think it's 351 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:50,080 interesting because you can do that with coffee right. Like coffee people like latch on to coffee 352 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,920 and it's like becomes a part of their identity. It's like who they are as a person. So now I'm 353 00:34:53,920 --> 00:35:00,800 like I'm a fucking iron and wine coffee bean. That's like a band that is totally the opposite of this 354 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:09,920 guy. Iron bean. Iron bean. I'm an iron bean coffee drinker. I fucking punch stuff for no reason. 355 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:17,360 I'm into that. That's the exact vibe. Yeah of all of these people. That tree looked at me weird. I punched it. 356 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,960 Yeah I like the mug marketing idea. I think maybe modest coffee should take a page out of this book. 357 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,640 Like I wouldn't want to just like be like my mugs mugs mugs mugs. Yeah it feels like you have to be 358 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:34,560 like shout at people. You know what I mean? I'm not good at shouting at people. It's interesting that 359 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,840 this person and his personality are so wrapped up in the brand as opposed to it just being like 360 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:46,320 here's here's good coffee. So he's like super intense ex-military guy. Like normally all of 361 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,840 this stuff kind of like freaks me out a little bit because a lot of times those people are like 362 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:55,600 intensely political intensely closed-minded. But like I started really scrolling through 363 00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,960 their Facebook group. I started scrolling through his Facebook page and he actually seems like a 364 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:06,480 really kind of a nice guy. Yeah he seems like kind of like despite his intensity it seems like deep 365 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:12,000 down inside he's kind of a softy. He seems like you know he like has nothing but positive things 366 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,360 to say. Every single one of his Facebook posts is like super positive. He had like a little post 367 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,320 about the shooting in Texas of all those students. It wasn't anything about like gun rights. It was 368 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:29,280 just more about like hey all of the resources that we have in this country. And he's like can we just 369 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,080 please redirect our resources in this country to help people and to prevent things like this from 370 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,640 happening. And I was like yes thank you. That's exactly what I think too. With all the powers of 371 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,280 the FBI and like the way they can infiltrate the internet and you can't like stop these things. 372 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,240 Every single one of these shooters posts about it on the internet before they go out. They did like 373 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:55,360 a fundraiser for like dogs. I'm like you guys are so like wholesome and sweet despite the fact that 374 00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:00,720 you might be NRA members. So that I think is actually really cool. What is Iron Bean Coffee 375 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:06,880 like? Is that also like a flavored coffee company or is that more like single origin type stuff? So 376 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:13,040 he says that everything they do is single origin but like everything they also do is flavored. 377 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:20,160 Nothing like flavoring a single origin. So but he does um he says that all the coffees they get 378 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:25,440 are organically grown either fair trade or direct trade. So he really cares about the sourcing. 379 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:31,440 I think like despite his like crazy intensity and his like arm wrestling you could never beat him 380 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:37,760 because his arms are gigantic. My impression is that he just does whatever people ask him for. 381 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:44,080 So somebody is like you know what I really would like to have a peach cobbler pie flavor. I love 382 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,600 peach cobbler pie coffee and he's like all right yeah I'll do that for you. Make it happen. Make 383 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:56,400 it happen. So I think that's a can do attitude. Yeah so I think that's just his deal. I think he 384 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,320 wants to do good. He wants to support the farmers and he just wants to make everybody happy. That's 385 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,160 the complete opposite of I feel like we go out of our way to do as little as possible. 386 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:13,120 We're like this is what we do. We do these four things really well or five things really well 387 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:19,920 and like that's it. Don't confuse us with your requests. Right just don't. Do you see what I 388 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,760 mean like he looks like kind of an intense dude. Yeah. Oh man he looks like um like the Terminator 389 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,640 a little bit. You know what he kind of reminds me of this is um going back to back to the future 390 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:36,000 it's Biff meets Arnold Schwarzenegger. That's it. That's it. He's Biff meets Arnold Schwarzenegger. 391 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,600 But maybe like yeah better looking than yeah like what you're picturing. Yeah I don't think he's a 392 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:48,000 bad looking guy. He doesn't look mean or anything. Chiseled. Yes he has a very strong chin. He looks 393 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,320 intimidating. I would definitely take him with me down to Dark Alley. You know who he looks like to 394 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,320 me? If you knew him. If I knew him. If I saw him in a Dark Alley I would be fucking scared. 395 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,960 He looks like the bigger buffer older brother of Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers. Oh that's good too. 396 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,480 The bigger buffer yeah um and if you look him up if you google him you can find all of his arm 397 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,600 wrestling competitions. I think he might be unbeaten. Wow. Perhaps I don't know I'm making that 398 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,520 up but he looks like he might be unbeaten. He looks like he should be undefeated. He looks like he 399 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:25,840 should be yeah exactly. Yeah cool. I think he's just trying to like be happy and like live this 400 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:32,960 life and just make coffee for literally everybody. He has a vehicle. Oh okay now his vehicle is also 401 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:40,720 fucking intense. Whoa. It's like some sort of ex-military vehicle. That's actually. Oh okay yeah 402 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:47,360 a little. I feel like it fits the vibe. Yeah 100 percent. It's a legit food truck. Oh and also 403 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:55,360 formerly a military assault vehicle. Yes. Cool I will assault you with this delicious coffee. Exactly. 404 00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:01,040 Right. All right cool. Um so yeah he like bought that. That's interesting. It says according to 405 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:07,440 some article that was written by the NRA it has a nitro cold brew kegerator refrigerator 406 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:13,280 sanitizing equipment various coffee making devices and best of all a large American flag. 407 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,880 Best of all can survive an IED explosive. I mean I think it probably could. 408 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,920 Um I was pleasantly surprised. I expected like somebody with a veteran owned coffee company 409 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,600 this big intense food truck and going to the NRA like I expected him to be like all the other people 410 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,960 that I know of that are like that but yeah no he's like positive and I think that's really cool. 411 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:45,520 So that's kind of like where I also find with this murder coffee company this murder straggulation 412 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,200 and then like we're gonna donate to the Innocence Project. Yeah. I don't think that there's any 413 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,960 like thought that this might be insensitive. So he's naive with a heart of gold. Yeah I think so. 414 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:02,560 From my experience is something that a lot of military guys have in common. I think that's part 415 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:08,400 of the boys club attitude. Like we're all young and we we're trying to have fun here. Yeah. And 416 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,960 is it like a... Why are you in your panties in a bunch? That's right. What's your problem? Yeah. 417 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,960 Maybe I'll laugh so we don't cry sort of thing. Yeah that's true too. Like let's try to like kind 418 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,120 of joke around about things that are uncomfortable so that we don't have to show that we're 419 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,840 uncomfortable about them. Right and if you laugh at it then you're not afraid of it. Well and I 420 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,800 could see that definitely being a thing like a culture thing in the marines too. Yeah I feel 421 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:38,400 like I've never met a military guy who wasn't both funny and offensive. Yeah. Right. But not like in 422 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,840 a mean-spirited way. Right. You know. Right. I mean I gotta say I love the Innocence Project. 423 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:49,520 Like love what they're doing and so it's like all right well he can't be that bad. Right exactly. 424 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,880 Of all the ones to support like that's a that's a really good one. Progressive one. Exactly. Yeah. 425 00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:00,480 Yeah. Yeah I think you described the military people perfectly stuff. Right. He's a jarhead. 426 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:10,480 He's a jarhead. I don't know what's a jarhead? The marine. Oh is that what it is? Yeah. That was a terrible catch. I hope that's not offensive to marines out there but I don't think marines get offended easily. I don't think they do. Okay. 427 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:17,120 I think he's a jarhead and the answer to that is ooh rah. Man if someone threw a grenade at you 428 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:26,960 at the farmer's market you would just be totally fucked Marcus. Do you ever think about that? I jump on top of it. That's what I would do. I would save everybody else. That's the type of person I am. 429 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,400 So he throws a ton of money. He's got like printed boxes. He's got all types of merch. He's doing all 430 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,120 sorts of stuff all the time. All sorts of marketing. He's always out there. He's got this giant truck 431 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:42,240 thing. So he's super into his business but it doesn't seem like they have a lot of employees. 432 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:50,640 It's like him and his wife and then I saw on their social media that they had hired a guy to work with them. They have a podcast called Just Fucking Off. That's cool. 433 00:42:52,400 --> 00:43:05,200 Is it about coffee? It's about him and his wife just sitting there talking. I think they're catering to their fans. Cool. Little fan service. They haven't had one since this spring and then the one before that was like five months prior or something like that. 434 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:22,880 So it's not like a real like legitimate podcast. It's more like a Just Fucking Off. Well I like that. Yeah sure. But yeah it seems like they're trying to do the right thing. They offer like veteran and military discounts through their website. There's like I guess some sort of verification. 435 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,880 Like third party verification that verifies IDs and then gives them a coupon code to come back to the website. 436 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:42,880 I have complicated feelings about war and the military. If you're going to support a veteran owned coffee business you could do worse. Yes. You could do a lot worse. It seems like this guy and his wife have their hearts in the right place and they're really trying to do good things. 437 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:58,800 So I really respect that and they seem like I said they seem like such nice people. Really nice. I read in one of the articles that like their Iron Bean Nation has become their community and this community and this Facebook group that they've created online is kind of what they were hoping for. 438 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:15,840 They were hoping to create through a cafe space. So it's outside of their immediate network and has now spread nationwide or whatever. So yeah they still manage to do that and if you go on that Facebook group everybody's like really into their mugs. 439 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:31,840 Well they're very into their mugs, they're very into their coffee and very into like the owners do interact with people and so yeah I think that they've done what they were seeking out to do with their coffee company. And to create a coffee for anybody. 440 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,840 Alright well shall we brew some coffee? Let's do it. 441 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:53,840 Modest Coffee roasts the highest quality single origin coffees without the snobbery. They take the guesswork out of buying specialty coffee by carefully curating green coffees and sorting them to one of their tiers based on cupping score, price, flavor notes and roast level. 442 00:44:53,840 --> 00:45:04,840 Go to www.modest.coffee forward slash no bad reviews to see what they're roasting today. Pip pip cheerio! 443 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,840 Alright are we ready for the olfactory reveal? We are ready for the olfactory reveal. 444 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:19,840 Alright so this is the Murder Coffee Company, an offshoot of the Iron Bean Coffee Company that they don't want you to know is an offshoot. So weird. I don't understand that. 445 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:32,840 So yeah just own it. Like you know, just be like hey this is a sub-set. Like we're a side project. Not like we believe so much in what Iron Coffee does. We really feel like they're a great partner. 446 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:46,840 So wait, does Iron Bean talk about Murder Coffee on their social media or does Murder Coffee have separate social media and is this guy marketing Murder Coffee the same way he's marketing Iron Bean Coffee? 447 00:45:46,840 --> 00:46:02,840 So Murder Coffee does have its own social media page. Many less followers than the Iron Bean does. Pretty much all off color memes about murder that I'm not really that into that make me feel a little uncomfortable. 448 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:12,840 Yeah the Jeffrey Dahmer one wasn't really cool. Yeah that was a little... yeah. I didn't like that one either. I don't know why it has time to be the entire marketing department. 449 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:25,840 I can't wait to smell this blueberry fucking coffee. Marcus is like please. Here why don't you take the first whiff. Oh please. Oof that is wafting through the air. I can smell it. It's like a blueberry jelly. 450 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:34,840 Kind of is like a blueberry jelly huh? Yeah like you would find sitting in a fruit stall or something like a jam. Like an old lady would be like here try some samples. 451 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:48,840 Yeah I didn't really get... I wish I could have found some information about like where their coffee flavors are coming from or something like that but there was really no information. I do think it's cool that they really do care about their beans and their sourcing. 452 00:46:48,840 --> 00:47:00,840 So you know that they're trying to do good even though they're putting some weird shit on top of the beans. It definitely feels like a joke. Like turning blue and making it blueberry flavored. Like it definitely feels like a meme coffee. 453 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:14,840 It is. The blueberry smell is intense but you can still smell the coffee. Yeah. It's not so overwhelming. Like that banana coffee you know it smelled so intense and so chemical and you couldn't even smell the coffee. 454 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:26,840 Yeah like that one speaking of asphyxiation like that one you put your head in the bag you know and like you literally like suck the air out of the room. Yeah. 455 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:42,840 So I'm pleased that this one definitely seems like it will be easier to handle. Well in an interview I watched with him he did say that they flavor the coffees and then also sample them trying to get the flavor of the flavor correct. 456 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:51,840 So that's good. Like he really takes it seriously his flavored coffee. Would you say he takes it dead serious? 457 00:47:51,840 --> 00:48:06,840 Yes. It reminds me of like a Jelly Belly like the blueberry Jelly Belly. I do smell coffee with like a hint of blueberry. Yes agreed. Right. So I feel good about that. Uh huh. Just can't wait to get it in my belly. My belly needs some blue. 458 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:30,840 I'm going to go get it for caffeine right now. Yeah. That's really funny. Well I want to like I want to crave it though. I want to want to drink it because that makes it more pleasant. Is that how you get to the bottom of every coffee cup? Yeah. I don't know like when we did the Elvis coffee I just took Steph and Marcus's mugs and I dumped them out because I was concerned about their health and both of them got mad at me. Yeah. 459 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:48,840 I thought they were like what happened to my coffee? Well it wasn't the coffee that I was mad about it was the whiskey. It was a lot of whiskey in those pecos. Alcohol abuse man. I was like I dumped it out for your own good. Party fall. And they were both like I was still drinking that and I'm like no you're not. 460 00:48:48,840 --> 00:49:17,840 Okay there were a combination of factors at play there. First of all we were eating the sandwiches and I thought it would be fun to have the coffee next to the sandwich. Oh I'm so sorry. But also like it's not really cool to drink three shots of whiskey at like 10 o'clock in the morning unless you have like a legit reason. Right. Well I have to drink this for the podcast. So like I know I could have poured another glass of whiskey but then it would have been just oh now I'm just an alcoholic. Right. Right. 461 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:37,840 I feel you. So I'm sorry. I'm really sorry for the disappointment that I caused you guys and any like mental anguish. I still stand by me forcing you guys to not poison yourselves. That was the most intense flavored coffee we've had right. I mean nothing else has been that intense. No. 462 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:56,840 Also I did actually think to myself there's no fucking way either one of them wants to finish this. I thought my first thought was there's no way either one of them wants to finish this and then a little voice in my head was like but what if they do. And then I was like there's no way. But if they do I'm saving their lives. 463 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:04,840 We appreciate your concern for our health. Do you want to try this coffee? I kind of want to try this coffee. Yes. I want to try the coffee. 464 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:19,840 I think that based on the fact that of what I know about this company what I know about this guy what I know about his sourcing standards I am hopeful that this coffee will be all right. Be not bad. Yeah. Yeah. Be not bad. Right. We'll see. 465 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:33,840 I feel like this this coffee has a little hint of cinnamon smell in addition to the blueberry. Yeah. I smell it's like a little cinnamon pie. Yeah like a little spice to it. Yeah. It doesn't smell terrible. Blueberry pie. 466 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:50,840 I feel like out of all the flavored coffees this one's not so offensive at all. No it's not too intense. Like it actually has a pleasant smell to it. Yeah. I was hoping you would like murder me with flavor. Don't worry about that dead body. 467 00:50:50,840 --> 00:51:12,840 Was there in the strawberry shortcake doll collection was there like a blueberry doll. I feel like if you took that doll and like stirred your coffee with it you would end up with this aroma. Yeah. Like it has like a slightly plasticky from the 80s scent to it. 468 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:33,840 It was just the like the sort of nondescript I guess it's blueberry. It's definitely fruity. If you tell me it's blueberry I'll believe it's blueberry. What was her name? Blueberry muffin. Oh okay. Blueberry fucking muffin. Here I found one on eBay for seventy five dollars like an actual vintage mint in box. 469 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:51,840 Oh wow these vintage dolls are so cute. They're super cute. I kind of want them. I bet they smell so good. Still you think? Yep. They've maintained. I bet that smell lasts fifty years no problem. Yeah like VOC like horrible like aroma. I haven't tried it yet it's still hot. 470 00:51:51,840 --> 00:52:19,840 Too hot. So yeah this blueberry this is for all of you from the 1980s and late 70s. I was more of a rainbow bright person. Rainbow bright was the shade. You think that is due to your raver days? Way before my raver days. But rainbow bright was fun. You were like destined to be to the raves. And gummy bears. Do you guys remember that TV show? No. Yes. Kind of. 471 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:33,840 That I liked a lot. I don't know why. I kind of remember that one. I just remember they got some like fucking gummy bear juice potion that made them like go all fucking nuts. And like they bounce around and shit. I always like loved that whenever they got their juice. 472 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:53,840 That's really funny. Yeah. That's all I remember from gummy bears. This is the marketing drugs to children. Fucking 80s. We were destined to fail. I feel like that must have been the late 80s to early 90s because I do not recall any gummy candy. It might have been early 90s actually. 473 00:52:53,840 --> 00:53:11,840 I don't even know what channel it would have been on. I think there was a gummy bears tape that my cousin had. I can't tell if I like this or if I don't. Adventures of gummy bears. 1985 for six seasons. 1985 for six seasons. 474 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:29,840 That's a long time. So was gummy bears ABC or was that Disney Channel? Did they even have Disney Channel back then? I don't fucking know. I wasn't allowed to have the table. NBC. Wait. NBC for the first four years. Then ABC for the last two or three years. And then syndicated after that. 475 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:50,840 Okay. So yeah. Steph, you don't remember? Look at these characters. Party on man. Steph would have been like 20. They were like. Oh. You remember? That's funny. Okay. I do remember those. I didn't connect those to gummy bears. But. Yeah. They were like. It was almost like Robin Hood of the bears. I was just going to say. Yes. Yes. 476 00:53:50,840 --> 00:54:09,840 And then it was like Rainbow Brite, gummy bears, and then the. Care Bears. Care Bears. Fucking love the Care Bears too. Love the Care Bears. Sorry. The 80s had the best TV shows for kids. That's true. They were like legit the best. Yep. That's true. There was not a. There was like not a bad one. They're all hits. 477 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:33,840 Which I found out later. Did you guys know this is that in the 80s with all these shows, it's when they. There was a law that prevented cartoons from selling like products to children. From companies from selling products to children. And then that law got lifted and immediately all of these cartoons came out to sell products to children. That's funny. Yeah. 478 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:47,840 And so gummy bears, Rainbow Brite, all of them had like accompanying product lines with them. Is that why they had. G.I. Joe's, Transformers, all toys. Is that why there were no cartoons in the 70s or earlier? Yeah. Well then it was like the Flintstones. 479 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:58,840 The Flintstones in the 70s? I thought they were in the 80s too. Oh they might have been pre 70s. I was going to say 50s. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Okay. So they had one cartoon back then. 480 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:18,840 Yeah. Jetsons. Yeah they didn't have a toy line. There was like Panabar Berra. Tom and Jerry. Oh I guess that's true. They did have those old school ones. Right. Wow. So. Interesting. You can thank capitalism for that shit. I prefer the cartoons that were pre that law being lifted. I would much rather watch the Flintstones than Care Bears or whatever. 481 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:47,840 Come on. Steph was a little bit. I'm old school man. She's a little bit of a different generation than us too though. I am literally a different generation. Is this cooled off enough? A2 Yogi Bear. It has cooled off. It doesn't taste like it smells. I'm getting more of that spice when I'm taking a sip. I would say that what I'm happy about is that I don't taste the flavoring oil chemical taste. The taste is not unpleasant. It's not bad. I guess blueberry coffee. This is black that I'm drinking in. 482 00:55:47,840 --> 00:56:15,840 There's a weird bitterness but I can't tell is that the coffee or is that the flavor oil? There's like a weird bitterness. I'm going to guess that it's the flavor oil because I believe just like how Coke, syrup, they can sell it to the bottling plants and the bottling plants mix in the water and the sugar. I think that flavoring oils are the exact same thing. I think that they are the flavor and when you add the sugar it completes the circle. 483 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:45,840 Let's do that then. I really think it's going to need a little bit of sugar to make that flavor come out. I do have a little bit of sugar right here. Interesting hypothesis there Scholar. That is that anthropology school that I went to. Just learning stuff. This is actually a little hint to everybody who would like to do correct research and just kind of get away from just the articles or whatever. Scholar.google.com will pull up journal articles that you can read. Some of them have 484 00:56:45,840 --> 00:57:14,840 you have to pay. I did find out about one called JSTOR and it basically stands for journal storage. So they just have like a collection and archive of lots and lots and lots of journal stuff and some stuff you have to pay for and some you don't. But I found out that this JSTOR daily is like scientific journals meets people who have written news articles. So I found some really interesting information on there. So if anybody is looking to do research on something or looking to get some news, check out JSTOR daily. 485 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:29,840 Cool. Yeah. Well the sugar and the oat beverage. It works in a cup. It's very sweet and it's fruity and feel like an old lady just sitting on my back porch like enjoying it. Do you want a cup of blueberry coffee? 486 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:59,840 Definitely the sugar brought out the blueberry flavor. I can taste that more now. I'm still getting like a bitterness that I don't like that I don't think is like I mean maybe it's just the coffee. Yeah. Try it with the Oatly. I don't know. I just added some Oatly and some sugar and I still have that little bit of a bitterness to stuff. It kind of like sits on the sides and the back of my tongue. Yes. Like a warm hug. I'm not a huge fan of like blueberry flavored things to begin with but it's not. It's not like I'm 487 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:16,840 a big fan of it. Yeah. I mean I think if you like blueberry and you like a little bit of spice like a little cinnamon type spice I think that this could be a great coffee for you because it's not overpowering if you know somebody who's into flavored coffees and into murder. 488 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:32,840 Yeah. Who is this coffee for? In my mind a little lady in a muumuu or house dress. Okay I'm starting to get really offended right now by this description. Why? I literally have been hanging out in a muumuu lately and I'm like 30 years older than you. 489 00:58:32,840 --> 00:59:02,840 I got my readers but the one with like the one with like the neck. Have you really been hanging out in a muumuu? Tell me about your muumuu. Is it brightly floral patterned? House slippers. Are we going to talk about the muumuu because I actually got matching muumuu's for me and my friend Jen when she was in town because it was going to be like 100 degrees so we could lounge around the hotel in our matching muumuu's. Was that the one you sent a picture of? I did send you a picture. I'm sorry Marcus I didn't send you a picture. House slippers. That is a caftan. That is not a muumuu. Okay well good luck. 490 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:31,840 Go ahead then. I just want to say a caftan is high fashion lounge wear especially that one that you bought. Maybe I'll just wear it next week for a recording. Do it. She's getting her morning paper because she still reads the morning paper and she's sitting on her front porch and she's enjoying this lovely sweet end blueberry coffee and she can't read the bag. She doesn't understand what she's really getting. She's drinking it and she's loving it. 491 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:52,840 She doesn't understand why it says murder on it but it's just a yummy tasting cup of coffee. Right. I don't understand what they mean by turning blue. It showed up on her and it's like shipped to her by accident. She just started drinking it. That's who this coffee is for. Unintentionally drinkable. 492 00:59:52,840 --> 01:00:14,840 I think that I'm fine with the sugar and the oat beverage. That's fine. That's fine to me. I'm going to add some whiskey. The sugar brought out the blueberry flavor. The oatly helped the bitterness a little bit. I'm going to add some whiskey because I'm unfortunately this little old lady is not ready to give this coffee a not bad review yet. 493 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:26,840 I think it might be better with whipped cream though. Let me go grab that. I don't know. You're satisfied with this? I'm satisfied. I mean it's not bad. I'm embracing my inner little old lady. I believe there's one in there. 494 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:45,840 Alright I put a big splash of whiskey in. Let's see what happens. I feel like the little old ladies in my family would be like, oh I'm not drinking that. Just from the packaging. Just from the bloody murder on the packaging. I feel like I'm throwing that straight in the garbage. Straight from hell. 495 01:00:45,840 --> 01:01:09,840 I am having a hard time trying to figure out who this coffee is for because you know like a blueberry flavor is kind of like fun and silly and like but then the packaging and the murder is kind of freaky and intense. You know what this is probably for somebody who's like freaking intense but also likes to tap into their soft side. Yeah like their soft eye just like a piece of blueberry pie after dinner side. 496 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:16,840 So are you saying this is like for a marine that's afraid to like really admit that they have a soft side? 497 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:35,840 I think you know what this is definitely for the owner of the coffee company. But he doesn't seem to mind like being in touch with his soft side. He's open like on his posts on social media. He's like put up a picture of his son and he's like here's my son. I love him so much. He's like the best thing that's ever happened to me. 498 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:49,840 His son like tagged him in a post was like I just love my dad so much. My dad's the best. And I'm like God you're so sweet and wholesome and scary looking. 499 01:01:49,840 --> 01:02:05,840 So yeah I mean like I could totally see him being into this coffee. He's just like I just love blueberry you know. It's so fucking good. It's just so fucking good. It's got the intense blue. I love it when it's intense and blueberry. Yeah exactly. 500 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:18,840 I kind of want to meet this guy now. I bet he's just like a real like sweet gentle guy outside of social media. He's probably just like quiet and like chill and super sweet. Although the arm wrestling. I mean it's fucking hard to arm wrestle. 501 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:32,840 I have not arm wrestled an adult in many many years. I've only arm wrestled children. It sounds like you're challenging me to a duo. Oh is that what we're doing right now. I mean maybe we'll save it for the Patreon. 502 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:46,840 I can see Stephanie. I'm embarrassed in front of fewer people. Going on a power trip just destroying five year olds. I'm pretty. Just crushing them. Who's next? They're the ones who ask to arm wrestle. No adult has approached me and been like do you want to arm wrestle? 503 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:59,840 You're like undefeated I'm sure if I saw you destroy a five year old. I feel like we have to do that Steph right now. I do pretty well in my own family. Alright we can do it. Okay let's do it. You're going to kick my ass. I know it. You got to turn the mic towards you though Steph so that we can still hear you. 504 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:14,840 I'll give you guys some play by play. Grunting. Oh my god I'm totally. You're going to. Steph has got practice though. You're 100% going to murder me like this coffee. There's no way I'm going to win against you. I need a camera. I need a phone. My phone's in the basement. Here's my phone. 505 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:36,840 Jenny works out so and Jenny also lifts 150 pound bags of coffee. I am literally the weakest person I know. I'm the literal weakest person at bar class. All of these like old ladies are like so much better and stronger than me. They can like plank for 90 seconds. I got about five seconds max. I don't even know what planking is. 506 01:03:36,840 --> 01:04:05,840 Alright are you ready Steph? I am ready. I'm so scared. Over the top. Someone's going to get hurt here. Come on guys. Someone's going to get hurt. Yeah someone. Let me move the glass out of the way. I'm so scared. Steph you're going to kill me. I'm so worried. Let's do this. Alright three two. See I told you you were so much fun. Oh my god. Oh jeez. You're cheating. That's totally cheating. That's cheating. No. Oh Jenny you're getting wrecked. Oh my god. I told you I'm so weak and I tried so hard. That was so hard. 507 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:33,840 That was not very hard. I told you I'm not strong at all. You know what? You have a better angle than me. Oh it was the angle you guys. Hold on. Rematch. Switch chairs. No. No Jenny. You just got wrecked. Gosh. I just got what is it called? Owned? No wrecked. They don't say owned anymore. Well I told everybody Steph tried to play it off like she was humble. I have zero strength in anywhere. Oh man. 508 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:45,840 And Steph like set you up too. She's like she's so strong. I know. She's like you could exercise class. And I'm like you don't seem to understand. That was a head game. That was fun. That was more fun than drinking this coffee. 509 01:04:45,840 --> 01:05:08,840 Steph did just play a head game on me right? Yeah she played you. Well now I'm the one who's embarrassed that I got beat by an old lady. I've got video evidence. And a mu mu. I've got video evidence of Jenny trying to use two hands and Steph still holding. 510 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:21,840 You versus Fred Dedrick next. Alright. Let's reach out to him. Bring it Fred. Yeah. Bring it. Cool. He's finally going to be defeated. His streak is over. 511 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:34,840 Well that was fun. I am weak. I am proud of it. I added a whole lot of whiskey to this coffee. Yeah. And that helps. And the whipped cream doesn't hurt. I think it really needs everything. For me to say this is like okay. It really needed. 512 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:52,840 Everything on the table dumped into this coffee. Still better than Elvis. I don't think anything could possibly be worse. This is a No Bad Reviews podcast. So it's not a bad review. But of all of the not bad coffees we've had the Elvis coffee was at the very bottom of the not bad. 513 01:05:52,840 --> 01:06:07,840 Right. It needed the most help. Yes. It needed fire. But that's fine. Yeah. This one really. This one I feel like needed a lot of help too. But yeah. You know I'm drinking it now. With only with only cream and sugar. 514 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:23,840 I added the gamut to this coffee minus the whiskey of course. And you know I thought that out of every artificially flavored coffee that we've had this was probably I think this might have been the best of all the artificially flavored coffees. 515 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:43,840 You like this better than the bones better than the cotton candy bones. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well cool. Well there you go. Murder Coffee Company turning blue turning blue. You know not bad. Not bad. Thanks everybody for being here along on Murder Coffee Day. 516 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:56,840 Marcus did get a request at the coffee fest that for us to do a Murder Coffee episode. So yeah. Here you go. Here you go. To whomever it was that suggested that. This is your episode. 517 01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:09,840 So you can go ahead and follow us on social media and No Bad Reviews pod. Make sure you tell a friend about our podcast while you're liking us. I like how you did that. Be intense. You should just take a picture out of this guy's book. 518 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:25,840 I know I got to get a little more arm wrestler guy in me. I'm going to start working out and I'm going to challenge you to a rematch. You're on. I'm just going to start lifting. And then if you want to reach out, reach out on social media or at hello at NoBadReviewsPodcast.com. 519 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:41,840 You can go buy some summer merch on our store tab and you can also buy a mystery box. And if you have a suggestion or a fun coffee story, go ahead and send us that message. Anything else? I think that's it. All right. Well, thanks guys. Stay safe out there kids. 520 01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:23,840 Thank you for listening to this podcast generously sponsored by Modest Coffee, purveyors of single origin coffee without the snobbery. 521 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:33,840 Visit www.modest.coffee.com forward slash No Bad Reviews to see what they're roasting today. Enjoy.