Snoop Dogg + INDOxyz Coffee

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,760 Before we get started, we just want to let you know about a few ways you can support our Grassroots 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:12,720 Indie Show. You can follow us on social media at No Bad Reviews Pod. We'd love it if you could go 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:20,160 to your favorite podcasting app and rate us and review us. Also, please tell a friend about our 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:28,480 podcast. And last, you can financially support us on patreon.com slash No Bad Reviews, buymeacoffee.com 5 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:34,720 slash No Bad Reviews Pod. And you can buy merch at our website, NoBadReviewsPodcast.com. 6 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:59,600 Thank you and enjoy this episode. 7 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:07,760 Hello and welcome to No Bad Reviews, colon, a coffee podcast. This is a podcast where three friends, 8 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:15,360 co-workers, and coffee industry professionals get together every other week. And we explore the 9 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:24,960 beautiful globe that we live upon through the lens of coffee. We talk about anybody and anything. 10 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:31,280 Sometimes we'll name the person, sometimes we won't. That's a new thing. Sometimes we'll tell you to 11 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:37,600 Google it. We're name dropping today, big time. Or sometimes we have a really fun episode about a 12 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:43,440 really fun person. And that's today. I'm Jenny and I run the operations at a coffee company called 13 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:50,800 Modest Coffee. And I'm Marcus and I am co-founder of Modest Coffee, Good Food Award winning coffee 14 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:59,920 roaster and Santa isn't real. Oh man, we should, we're going to have to insert like a, like a 15 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:04,720 one of those, if you're driving with a kid in the car warnings. No, don't just leave that for them. 16 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:12,480 If you're driving with kids in the car, go back in time three minutes and tell them to close their 17 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:20,400 ears. We never said we were a kid friendly podcast. If anybody like allows their kids to listen to 18 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:29,840 this amount of swearing. Well, I question your parenting decisions. Domino motherfuckers, what's 19 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:35,760 happening? I'm Stephanie. Oh, is this like a new phrase we're going to learn today? Domino 20 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:41,520 motherfucker. This is what I'm doing today. Hell yes. Sugar. Just a little hint about today's episode. 21 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,320 I'm excited to learn more about this phrase that I may incorporate into my daily life. I'm just 22 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:55,440 trying to drop as many phrases from his first album as I can into today's episode. That is my 23 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:02,880 whole plan. I've written an entire episode around just being able to use these ridiculous 24 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,640 phrases. Amazing. They're not ridiculous when he says them, but I guarantee when I say them. 25 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:13,760 And if somebody has picked up on domino motherfuckers reference, you just won the prize. 26 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:19,600 The prize. You won a prize. I assume though that they read the title when they clicked play. 27 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:26,000 That's true. We might've had a spoiler. It's okay. We need to stop putting a title. Just episode 72. 28 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:35,040 That's all it is. No description except for our self-promotions. Right. And then it'll just be, 29 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,800 this episode is just the title or the definition. What is it? The description is just going to say 30 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:47,840 domino motherfucker. Oh, can it? Can it say that? We should make that. That'll get the clicks. 31 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:55,040 I'll put it like domino motherfucker and then click to hear more. Yeah. All caps. 32 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:02,880 Today we're talking about world-renowned coffee roaster, Calvin Brodus Jr. Ever heard of him? 33 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:11,680 Oh man. I have not, you know, I'm names to faces. I'm not. I heard he won a good food award. Did he? 34 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:17,600 Really? No. I didn't remember. I saw all of them. No, he didn't. But he is famous though. He is very 35 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,480 famous. Is he like Salt Bae of coffee roasters? I don't know what Salt Bae is. I don't know what 36 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,680 Salt Bae is either. Oh, okay. That's a reference that, you know, some of you listeners might get. 37 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:33,520 He's the guy that like does this with the salt and like the, nevermind. He's like very, very 38 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:42,720 Instagrammy guys. Look him up. Can you tell me his name again? Calvin Brodus Jr. Okay. I thought that 39 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:50,320 there was three names, but Jr. was the third. Okay. Oh, Calvin Kordazar Brodus Jr. Wow. What a name. 40 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:57,440 If you actually want his full name. Oh. But you may know him as Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg in the house. 41 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:05,360 What? His coffee is Indo XYZ. Love it. That's an Indonesia reference unless you're, don't assume 42 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,840 it's drugs. No, sorry. There's a fly. Oh, I thought you were clapping me out. No, I'm sorry. I thought 43 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:13,840 you were like, shut the fuck up. No, I'm sorry. Marcus is like, we don't talk about drugs on this podcast. 44 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,280 This is inappropriate for the children. 45 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:28,880 Yeah. So I want to say thank you to Snoop, first of all, because unlike certain 46 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:36,160 pop punk bands that we could mention, he does not hide the fact that someone else roasts his coffee. 47 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,320 He does not make you think that he's getting off the tour bus and walking straight into the roastery. 48 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,800 Yeah. Right. Thank you for your honesty and up frontness. Thank you for not making me like 49 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:50,080 dig deep to find the roaster. Good job. Like some people did. Yeah. This is, what do they call that? 50 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,480 Like a licensing? They license their image? Is this a licensing deal? You know, supposedly he and this 51 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:03,920 guy are like buddies. Okay. And yeah, the coffee roaster we are going to talk about. His name is 52 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:12,240 Michael Riadi and he's an Indonesian guy and he specializes in Indonesian coffee and he does have 53 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:18,000 his own company. And then this is like his joint venture. So this is like the kids explaining this 54 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:25,040 to me. They call that a collab. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What I read about it briefly when we first, 55 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,720 when I first found out about this coffee, I read an article about it. Yeah. It's basically this guy 56 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:37,120 who has the Indonesian connection Snoop Dogg wanted to start an Indo company, coffee company 57 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,280 or something. So we found somebody who would fit with that. And then the two of them hit it off as 58 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:46,240 his pals. I feel like Snoop Dogg kind of hits it off with everyone though. Yeah. That's what I was 59 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,080 going to say. I don't know anyone who doesn't want to hang out with Snoop Dogg. Right. And like, I 60 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:56,880 read a lot about Snoop Dogg over the past couple of weeks and I, like, hardly anybody has anything 61 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:02,880 negative to say about him. It's usually like, yeah, people love this guy. It's like tipper gore going 62 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:08,720 after him. Yeah, tipper gore, right. Only one who doesn't like Snoop Dogg. You know, but that's more 63 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:15,200 about his art and less about who he is as a person. Like nobody's really complaining about who he is 64 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:20,160 as a person. He seems like a very stand-up guy to me. Like he seemed like a genuine, 65 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:30,080 like down to earth, like good values type of guy. Like it just seems like he cares about his family. 66 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:39,120 He cares about his businesses. He just cares about like being chill and smoking weed. I mean, 67 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:44,080 that helps to be chill. It does. I mean, he seems to care about that. That seems to be a core value. 68 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:49,200 It is a core value. Yeah. I mean, I get that. But you know, it's like, I don't know, he just seems 69 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:56,400 like a cool dude. Like despite all of his fame and like he could be very pretentious, but he 70 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,840 doesn't be. You really get the feeling that like what you see is what you get with that guy. 71 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:08,480 Did you guys see the MTV Cribs? Oh, you know, I looked up a bunch of videos, but not that one. 72 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:15,440 Very, very same thing, like in very modest housing, you know, he was not like, it wasn't crazy, 73 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,720 flashy, showy, like a lot of the other MTV Cribs are. And it was just like him like in his boxers, 74 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:27,120 like just kind of chilling, like not like, you know, his family, his kids, you know, wife, long 75 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,760 time wife. Didn't he have like a like a, didn't he have a reality show for a little while back in 76 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:39,200 like the 2000s? So I watched a little clip of his reality show called. I think I watched a few 77 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,960 episodes of that. Oh, gosh. Oh, I didn't even write down the name. It's like, um, 78 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:51,520 I feel like daddy's in the name. I feel like daddy's, I don't know, actually daddy's house 79 00:08:51,520 --> 00:09:00,800 feels like something that I just made up. I was most impressed by if it was the, whatever it was 80 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,200 that I watched, it was like a personal look into his life. And I'm assuming it was the reality show. 81 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:10,800 And I was mostly impressed by the fact that him and his wife, like have been together for so long. 82 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:16,960 And then he's just a really family oriented guy and that he just like, whatever he's doing with 83 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:23,920 like the music and the weed smoking and all that, that's part of like his brand. But like who he 84 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:30,800 actually is, is just this guy, like you said, pretty modest house, not flashy, just trying to 85 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:37,840 like live his life and be a family guy. I don't know about not flashy. Um, I didn't, I didn't, 86 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,560 I mean, I just did, you know, compared to like people who are driving these like fancy cars and 87 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:47,760 have these gigantic houses and it's all about the money and the wealth and like, you know, if you 88 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:54,560 were to go in, there are certain people who have reality TV shows where it's all about their wealth. 89 00:09:54,560 --> 00:10:00,960 And for him, my impression was it's all about his family. That's basically what my impression was. 90 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:09,680 I watched a clip of that show and it seemed very scripted. It like annoyed me how scripted it seemed, 91 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:14,640 but the kids did go into his closet when he wasn't there to steal money out of his jacket 92 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:22,960 pockets, which I thought was funny. And I was amused by his closet, which looks a lot like my 93 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:28,880 closet in that it was not very big and it was packed so full and it was not, you know, it was 94 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:34,960 so full and it was not, you know, it wasn't like this huge room that you walk into that was well 95 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,920 organized with someone else taking care of his laundry and shit. It was just like a closet. 96 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:45,040 A bunch of shit thrown in it. Oh my God. And it was just like all jerseys and fur coats. It was 97 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:51,120 really funny. Oh, see this is what I love. Snoop Dogg is all of us. 98 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:57,760 Great. All right. Snoop Dogg was born in 1971. He's a couple of years older than me. 99 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:02,160 He's a pretty young guy. Like 51 now. Yeah. 100 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,240 Wow. Did you think he was older? 101 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,680 I thought he was 70 for some reason. I mean like 71. I was surprised. 102 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:12,240 I thought he was like, you know, peers with Bill Cosby. 103 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Wow. Although I guess 50 is getting kind of old these days. 104 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,720 Hey now. I mean, I'm just messing with you. 105 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:26,080 And all of our 50 year old listeners. Sorry. I'm just being a jerk as I approach 50. 106 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:31,280 Wow. Snoop's a young fellow. I think about where I was in life, 107 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:37,280 like driving around in my car, listening to Doggie Style and what I had accomplished at that point. 108 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,640 And he was like world famous. So young. 109 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,360 He accomplished a lot really young. He would have been like 20. 110 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,840 He was, I think he was 22 when Doggie Style came out. 111 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:48,880 Wow. That's what I mean. 112 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:54,160 I thought he was older when that happened because so few people get that level of success at 22. 113 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,480 Right. It was extremely 114 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,200 shockingly successful. Especially outside of the, 115 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,560 back in the day when you didn't have YouTube to like get people like Justin Bieber famous. 116 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,160 That's right. I did say Bieber on purpose. 117 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:15,600 1971 is also the year that rap was born. 1971. 118 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:22,880 1971. Did they like, did they retroactively say this is when Snoop Dogg was born. So that's when 119 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,280 rap was born. No, his essence coming into the world 120 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,880 brought the essence of rap with him. Heralded in a new era in music. 121 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,280 If you believe in souls or whatever, Snoop Dogg's soul brought that into his life. 122 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:44,320 Rap has arrived in this world. His essence arrived in the form of a 123 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Jamaican guy in the South Bronx named Kool Herc. Love it. 124 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,160 Kool Herc was like playing turntables and rapping over them. 125 00:12:55,680 --> 00:13:02,480 Hip hop started at like block parties. So the South Bronx in the 70s was kind of a 126 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:08,720 disaster. That's a rabbit hole. We don't have to go down, but like literally they talk about like 127 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:14,800 the Bronx was burning. And that's because the city decided to save money by just like taking all the 128 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:21,120 fire stations out of the poor neighborhoods. So the South Bronx was literally like 70% of the 129 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:26,640 apartments in the South Bronx burned down. Shit. In the 1970s. Like I can't even wrap my head 130 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,360 around that number. It's insane. That's crazy. 131 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,280 So like that's what was going on in the background. It was also like the late 70s. 132 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:38,880 You had those rolling blackouts and that Summer of Sam serial murderer guy. 133 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:47,680 You know, let me say the 70s in New York City were generally a fucking dumpster fire in general. 134 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:50,720 All over New York. I think even like Manhattan too. 135 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Yeah. The whole city. 136 00:13:52,240 --> 00:14:03,120 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So hip hop, the word hip hop used to refer to the parties. Like we're going 137 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:09,040 to go to a hip hop and they were these like big block parties and you'd have these. 138 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Maybe like a sock hop, but hip. But hip. That's right. Far less square. That is correct. 139 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:22,640 Yeah. Sure. So this guy, Kool Herc kind of gets the credit for being the first one to like break 140 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,600 out turntables and like sample these songs and just like talk over them. He would use the 141 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,080 instrumental part of the song. He'd play it over and over and over and he would just kind of talk 142 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,320 over it. He used a lot of funk. Like he really liked James Brown. He didn't think that the 143 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:43,600 American audience would get reggae, which is what he really wanted to do. So he was using funk. 144 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Yeah. I guess Scott had not come to the United States really. I'm thinking back, 145 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:54,400 the other reggae that was associated was with Scott. But that was still, it went to England first. 146 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:03,920 Remember? Right. Maybe he was right. Break dancers. So the break in the music was the part 147 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,640 where the instrumental part was repeated and no one was rapping and people would dance during 148 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,920 the break. And that's where the term break dancing came from. I didn't know that. That's 149 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:22,640 also James Brown and a few songs like Kick It To The Break. Yeah. That's when the musicians 150 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:32,960 go fucking nuts too. The solos or whatever. Yeah. Grandmaster Flash heard Kool Herc and he 151 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:40,400 started doing the same thing, but a little weirder. Like he was playing records backwards. He was 152 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:46,080 scratching them up more. He was just like adding his own twist to it, but he couldn't rap. So he 153 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:54,080 got together with a band, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. They released a song in 1979 154 00:15:54,080 --> 00:16:01,360 called We Rap More Mellow. They were called the Younger Generation at that point. And that is not 155 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:06,400 credited with being the first official rap song. At first they didn't think you could record rap. 156 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:12,320 You can't record it. It's like- So it's like in the moment. It's like part of it is being in this 157 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:18,880 group of people outside at a cookout or a barbecue or whatever, a block party. Yeah. Just rapping. 158 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:24,800 It's meant to be, yeah, in the moment. It's like you're feeling the moment. A lot of it was 159 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,280 freestyle. They weren't coming with written lyrics. They were just saying whatever popped into their 160 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,600 head in the moment. It's like particle physics. As soon as you observe it, you fucking ruin 161 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:41,200 the whole experiment. That's right. It was actually a woman. First time rap has ever been compared to 162 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:47,760 particle physics. See? There you go. You heard it here first. Now I'd like to see a physicist- 163 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:52,720 Just let it flow naturally. I'd like to see a physicist, a cool physicist do a paper on this 164 00:16:52,720 --> 00:17:00,560 now. Yeah. Right? Mm-hmm. Challenge. A challenge. To all of our physicist listeners that are cool. 165 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:07,760 Show how cool you are. All of you. There was another song that also, 1979 was like the year. 166 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:15,520 There was the first song that came out in 1979 in March was called King Tim the Third by the Fat 167 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:21,440 Back Band. That was originally an instrumental song that they had someone rap over at the last 168 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:28,480 minute. That was like maybe officially the first rap song. Then this Grandmaster Flash song came 169 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:37,760 out. Then the Sugar Hill Gang came out with Rapper's Delight. That's considered the first 170 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,720 successful rap song. That's the first one they got radio play. That's the one that people heard of. 171 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:49,680 That one is still a fucking jam. It is. Yeah. It's pretty funny. Yeah. There was a woman producer 172 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:57,680 named Sylvia Robinson who insisted on recording the song. She really was instrumental in making rap 173 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:03,680 a thing. Hell yeah. Yeah. Way to go. Sylvia, good job. I wish I knew more about her, but that was 174 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,520 one of those rabbit holes that I didn't go down. It's okay. I'm trying to limit myself. It's okay. 175 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,440 So you know- Marcus says he needs to do less editing. 176 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:18,000 Oh my God. That won't make it in the episode. You should leave it. Leave it. I'm challenging 177 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:24,960 you to leave it. For all those people who listen and are like, you guys sound so good. Yeah. 178 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,680 That's because Marcus cuts out all of our bullshit. We are actually here for like four hours every 179 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:35,120 time. You only get an hour. It's all good. It's all good. You know, we're just hanging out. That's 180 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:39,040 what happens when three friends, coworkers, and coffee industry professionals get together every 181 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:47,680 other week. Yeah. So the 80s were big for rap, but Gangster Rap was just starting to like appear. 182 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:57,360 1984 Run DMC, 1987 Public Enemy and LL Cool J. But it was like, it was actually Ice T in 1986, 183 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:02,800 who gets a lot of credit for Gangster Rap. He was kind of like the first successful one, 184 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:09,600 heavily influenced by a guy named Schooley D out of Philadelphia. I just think it's so funny that 185 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:16,960 Ice T is like a detective on SVU for so many years now. I just like for some reason it just, 186 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,520 it makes me laugh. It does. Like that juxtaposition. Like I can't even imagine him being a Gangster 187 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,920 rapper because he's just Agent Finn. Yeah. I just think of him as like a cop now. Yeah. That's 188 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:31,760 pretty fucked up Ice T. He ended up in one of my playlists and it was like him like rapping about 189 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:38,320 his like, there was a really rough like upbringing about his mom. And yeah, it was pretty brutal. 190 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,800 Yeah. Yeah. When Gangster Rap first came out and people started calling it Gangster Rap, 191 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:49,360 the actual rappers were like, this is reality rap. We're not trying to pretend to be something 192 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:54,560 we're not. We're trying to actually tell our story of what it's like to live here and 193 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,480 be young and black and male. And it wasn't easy. I'm sure it's still not. 194 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:05,760 Well, that's what gets me too. Sometimes you'll hear people like probably mostly like old white 195 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,480 ladies who are like rap music and blah, blah, blah. They're talking about things like blah, blah, 196 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,280 blah. I'm like, but that's the reality of some people. And if you don't like it, like why don't 197 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:22,480 you, why don't we think about how do we help change people's realities as a society rather than just 198 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,720 being like, well, they're blah, blah, blah. No, these are the people, this is how people live. 199 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:32,560 You sound like somebody who's gone woke. Both of you. I've done been woke. 200 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:37,520 I've been awake for a long time. Well, I mean, that's at least 7am. 201 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:49,520 That's the whole point of it. All right. So rap is born and growing. And so is Snoop. He's actually 202 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:55,280 named after his stepfather, this crazy big name. His dad sort of disappeared right at the beginning 203 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,920 and his stepdad was there pretty much from day one. So he has two brothers. He's the middle, 204 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,480 he's in the middle of two brothers. His stepdad wasn't around for too long and actually died 205 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:14,880 really young. And so Snoop was mostly raised by his mom. Wait a second. He's named after a stepdad. 206 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:23,680 I'm a little confused too by how that all works. Because when did the stepdad come after his dad 207 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:29,200 impregnated his mom? I do not have the details on this whole situation. Unless his mom like maybe 208 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:35,280 got knocked up. Maybe Snoop was his, or maybe they added on. I mean, he could have adopted him. 209 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:41,120 All right. Added on. And changed his name. I guess his dad left when he was just like a couple of 210 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:47,760 months old and his stepdad was always there. That's all I know. Four names gotta come from 211 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,480 somewhere. You gotta talk to his mom if you want the details on the starting and ending point of 212 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,800 each relationship. She's probably still alive. When she sends us an email at hello at nobadreviewspodcast.com 213 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:07,600 we'll be sure to report back. We're looking for her clarification. Snoop was born in Long Beach, 214 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:14,480 grew up there. His mom gave him the nickname Snoopy because he loved the Peanuts character Snoopy. 215 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,040 That's like the most wholesome fucking name to get the way to get that name. Can we just stop and 216 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,080 say Snoop Dogg's fucking wholesome? Yeah, for real. You know what else I learned this week? 217 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:32,800 Is that Suge Knight has that name because his mom called him Sugar Bear when he was little. 218 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:39,120 Suge Knight is not sweet. I know he's not, but that is a very cute way to get a name. I think 219 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:43,280 it's really funny that these super tough guys are still going by the names their mommies gave them 220 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:49,360 when they were 18 months old. That's so cute. That's pretty common though in the black community. 221 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:56,080 I think everybody has a nickname given to them by family. Awesome. They're usually cute because 222 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,280 it's like they pick them up when they're kids and then that's the name they always go by. 223 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:06,080 Yeah, forever. It's so common. Everybody has a nickname. If my son ever makes it as a big rap 224 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:13,280 star his name's going to be little baby chub chub. I hope he doesn't. I'm going to check. 225 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:19,120 Yeah, that rap name already exists. I'm sorry. I'm just going to Google that one. 226 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:22,480 Arden could be good. Little R. He's gone platinum. Little R. Oh, that's a good one. 227 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,960 That's a good one. Her rap name? Yeah. Yeah. 228 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,440 When Snoop was very, very young he was singing and playing piano at their Baptist church. 229 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,920 So musically inclined from a very young age. In a wholesome fucking way too. Yeah. 230 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Can't even with this guy. Next thing you're going to tell me he was like a model for Cheerios. 231 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:49,120 Gerber. I was going to say that he did contribute to the family with like cute little jobs. He sold 232 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:54,320 candy. He delivered newspapers and he bagged groceries and he gave all the money to his mom 233 00:23:54,320 --> 00:24:00,400 to help raise the family. Can we just stop? Isn't he the sweetest? He is. He deserves it. 234 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:08,400 He was a dedicated student. He was an enthusiastic churchgoer. He was active in choir in high school 235 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,520 and he played football. Oh, he's very tall and skinny for a football player. Yeah. Isn't that 236 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:20,720 funny? Yeah. He started rapping in sixth grade. I don't know where he picked it up, but he was 237 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:26,080 really good at freestyle. He would just do it in the school hallways all the time. He'd draw such 238 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:31,040 a big crowd that the principal would come running thinking it was a big brawl. But it was just him, 239 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,440 like everybody standing around listening to him rap. That's cool. It gave him a lot of self-confidence. 240 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:41,840 He could see that he had a real talent and it made him feel good about himself. He graduated from high 241 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:51,600 school in 1989. He did get involved with the gangs. He's denied that at some point. Yeah, naturally, 242 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:59,840 like you do. Go on record. I don't know. But at some points, I don't know. You grow up there and 243 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:06,560 you hang out with people, right? And you associate. I don't know how you get out of that. Well, part 244 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,440 of it too is like- I think he's wrapped about gang stuff too. He's like, crips or bloods or- 245 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:17,600 He's a crip. He was a rolling 20s crip. They're on the east side of Long Beach. It's part of it too. 246 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:25,280 Gangs that control blocks in certain neighborhoods. So it's like, if you live in this certain block 247 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:31,280 radius, what are you going to do? You're going to associate with the people that are in your 248 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:36,160 neighborhood. And if you're going to associate with somebody outside of the blocks, then you're 249 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,440 going to have some problems where you live. So I mean, it just kind of is what it is. I mean, 250 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:48,720 when you grew up around it, it's normal and not necessarily great, but it is what it is. 251 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:59,440 He's getting by, doing the thing. His first arrest is for possession of crack cocaine in 1989. 252 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,720 And for the next three years, he was frequently in and out of jail. How old was he then? So in 1989, 253 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,800 he was like 18. Yeah, 18 or- Yeah, he graduated in 89. So yeah, it was right after he graduated, 254 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:19,520 was his first arrest. He's had many, many arrests over the years, even up through 2012. 255 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,880 Stooped drugs getting in trouble that late. Was it him and Martha Stewart? 256 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:30,880 His 2012 arrest was in Norway. He brought a very tiny amount of marijuana. 257 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,240 Like a pound or something like that? It was under an ounce. It was well under an ounce. 258 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:44,000 It was probably in a pants pocket in a suitcase that he didn't even realize he had. And then 259 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,120 roughly $30,000 in cash in his carry-on bag. Also not acceptable? 260 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:58,720 And he got to Norway and they were like, oh, you can't do that. I don't know why that rule exists, 261 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:04,080 something to do with money laundering, I assume. But you can't just carry a briefcase full of cash 262 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,800 around into foreign countries. On one hand, it is a little fucking weird 263 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,920 because that's a lot of money. It's Snoop. But I was going to say on the other hand, 264 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:18,160 when you're a multi, multi, multi, multi millionaire, or possibly a billionaire, 265 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,040 who knows what Snoop- I didn't look up his net worth, but I will. 266 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:28,000 $30,000 is probably like 30 bucks. He only had like a third of an ounce of weed on him. 267 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,520 He needed that money as soon as he landed. Right, to get more. 268 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:37,920 I guess like, isn't weed legal in Norway? I thought it was legal in most of Europe. 269 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,200 Maybe it's legal once you're there. Maybe it's not legal to bring it in. 270 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,200 Well, look, it's not that big of a deal. Just good thing he wasn't in Russia. 271 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,920 Right. Yes, I did have that thought. Jesus Christ. He should be more careful. I don't 272 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,480 think he's ever been to Russia. A Norwegian fucking jail? Come on now. 273 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,640 I'll go check into a Norwegian jail. I'm sure it's like a vacation. 274 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:05,520 Oh man, there's some guy listening to us in Norway in prison who's really mad at you right now. 275 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:13,600 Most of his arrests have been either like possession of weed or crack, 276 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:19,120 possession with intent to sell in his early days, and then also a lot of firearm arrest 277 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:24,240 because he is a felon from the earlier drug charges. He's not allowed to have a gun, 278 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,600 but he always does. Why? He always does. I mean, not always. I don't know, but several times. 279 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:35,760 Maybe after- If you're walking around 30 Gs, you're going to need to be packing heat too. 280 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,160 Look, let's just talk about the fact that I don't agree with guns, but maybe after he saw 281 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,640 what happened to Tupac, he's like, I better carry a gun too. You never know when somebody's going 282 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:51,920 to be out for you. Yeah. I mean, if you have a literal car in cash on you, like multiple cars- 283 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:58,240 I'm not going to get Snoop Dogg a pass on guns because I like him and I don't like all the so-called 284 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:06,640 patriots, but I mean, no bad reviews of the American flag, whatever, but guns. I don't 285 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:15,120 think it's a good idea to just carry around a gun. Yeah, or cash, or drugs, if you're in Norway. 286 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120 I don't think you should carry this stuff around in the United States either. 287 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,240 Okay. He was arrested that one time for murder, and we'll get to that in a minute. 288 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,400 Oh, he was? We'll get to that in a minute. I didn't know about that. 289 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,400 Oh, you didn't? No, I thought he was wholesome. I didn't know. 290 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,160 Oh, well, this will be fun then. Oh, okay. Well, you know what? We can all be multifaceted. 291 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,600 I'm sure he's done a lot of changes for himself. There's a lot of gray area, 292 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,480 and especially in Snoop's life, there's a lot of gray area. 293 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,960 Well, it seems like he's come around to try to be a better person though. 294 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:49,440 No. Was the murder charge recent? No. He was acquitted, and we're going to talk about it. 295 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:56,640 He started a band, a group. If you're rappers, are you called a band or are you called a group? 296 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,200 Think a group. All right. So they were called 297 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:04,880 213, because that's the Long Beach area code. It was him and his two cousins, Nate Dogg and 298 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:11,680 Little Half Dead. Wait, they got Nate Dogg? I don't know why that's so funny, that his cousin is 299 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,760 Nate Dogg and he's Snoop Dogg. Why is that so funny to me? 300 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,080 And I think there's a few other dogs, and they're like the Dogg Pound. 301 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,040 The Dogg Pound, yeah. Yeah. They were a whole thing for a while. 302 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,880 This is so funny. And then also his friend, War and G. Do you guys remember War and G, 303 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,120 or is that before your time? Yeah, I remember War and G. 304 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,200 I remember him personally. We were friends. We went out to coffee once. Old friend. 305 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:40,400 So this is the 213 group, is these guys. And they were making their own tapes and probably- 306 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,560 Little mix tape. Yep. Probably selling them out of the 307 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,960 trunk of the car. Somebody put one of those tapes into Dr. Dre's hands. 308 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,840 Nice. And that is how Dr. Dre found Snoop Dogg. 309 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,360 Man, Dr. Dre, he has gotten so many people famous. 310 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,760 He's really something. So we're going to- Wait, does he have a coffee? Because he needs 311 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,320 an episode, I think. That'd be great. Should I not say 312 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,480 what I was going to say about Dr. Dre and save it just in case there's a coffee? 313 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,240 No, no. This will be a preview for a future episode. 314 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:19,520 Okay. 1987 NWA. They're like the first really big West Coast- 315 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,880 What does it stand for? You know I can't say it. 316 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,920 Just kidding. Just kidding. Wait, okay. N-word? 317 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,240 Yes. Race? What's W? 318 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,960 I don't know what it stands for. With? 319 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,720 Attitude. Attitude. 320 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,720 Oh, okay. I didn't know that. How did I not know that? 321 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,240 How did you not know that? I don't know. You can say N-word. 322 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,320 You can say N-word. As a white person, yes. 323 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,160 So the first NWA album was more like a compilation album. 324 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,120 There were three NWA songs and then each of these guys, there were five guys in this 325 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,440 group who were all really talented and all went on to have solo careers. 326 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,160 So it was kind of a mix of NWA songs and then solo songs. 327 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,720 And this was like Easy E was kind of the one who set the whole thing up and 328 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,760 then everyone ended up hating him because there were like disputes about contracts. 329 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Yeah, money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 330 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:23,600 So Easy E founded NWA and co-founded Ruthless Records who was making the NWA album. 331 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,400 So he just kind of had his hands everywhere. 332 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:26,900 Right. 333 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:35,140 So 1988 Straight Outta Compton was the first official studio album. 334 00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:37,940 That was the one with Fuck the Police on it. 335 00:32:37,940 --> 00:32:40,340 So everybody got... That was NWA or that was... 336 00:32:40,340 --> 00:32:42,100 That was NWA, yeah. Okay, cool. 337 00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:44,180 And that got everybody all riled up, right? 338 00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:46,660 Right on. That was so huge. 339 00:32:47,780 --> 00:32:50,340 Blue Line. Blue Lines Matter. 340 00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:50,840 That was crossed. 341 00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:53,780 The Blue Line was definitely, yeah. 342 00:32:53,780 --> 00:32:57,380 It went double platinum, so plenty of people liked it just fine. 343 00:32:57,940 --> 00:32:58,440 Right. 344 00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:01,860 Ice Cube left in 89 over royalty disputes. 345 00:33:01,860 --> 00:33:06,340 He wrote over half the lyrics on Straight Outta Compton and didn't get paid appropriately, apparently. 346 00:33:07,460 --> 00:33:10,020 So then there was like a big public feud. 347 00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:18,100 And then Dr. Dre left in 1991 and joined Death Row Records over a contract dispute with Easy E. 348 00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:24,580 So 1991 Death Row Records, the story I read, which I didn't write down, was that Dre got out 349 00:33:24,580 --> 00:33:28,340 of his contract with Easy E because Shugknight showed up and... 350 00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:28,840 Killed him. 351 00:33:33,780 --> 00:33:38,100 That is not the person that Shugknight is currently in prison for murdering. 352 00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:40,660 Easy E is still alive. 353 00:33:40,660 --> 00:33:43,540 Easy E is still alive. Luckily... 354 00:33:43,540 --> 00:33:44,420 That we know of. 355 00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:46,820 He might be Tupac. 356 00:33:46,820 --> 00:33:49,460 I heard Tupac is still alive. 357 00:33:49,460 --> 00:33:54,260 I'm not going to go into any of the conspiracy theories about Tupac and Biggie, 358 00:33:54,260 --> 00:33:58,020 but I did read some really good ones about Shugknight. 359 00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:05,940 Apparently he had police that he was paying off and maybe Shugknight himself had Tupac killed 360 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,540 so that he could kill Biggie because maybe Tupac was going to leave... 361 00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:11,780 I don't know. The whole thing is very... 362 00:34:11,780 --> 00:34:16,020 There's lots of wacky theories about what might have happened. 363 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:17,140 I don't know who killed who. 364 00:34:17,140 --> 00:34:20,500 Every fucking just people are dying and killing each other and... 365 00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:21,300 It's very futile. 366 00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:21,780 I can't keep track of it. 367 00:34:21,780 --> 00:34:23,140 Very futile, the rap game. 368 00:34:24,180 --> 00:34:29,940 There's turf and territory and boundaries and sometimes they get crossed lyrically. 369 00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:31,140 Gang of Thrones. 370 00:34:31,140 --> 00:34:34,820 I feel like if you just stay away from Shugknight, you're okay. 371 00:34:34,820 --> 00:34:36,820 I mean, just that name makes me anxious. 372 00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:42,900 I don't even want to talk about him. I don't even want him coming to find me. 373 00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:44,500 He's getting out of prison in 10 years. 374 00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:45,540 Oh, man. 375 00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:47,860 And we are not going to say anything bad about him. 376 00:34:48,660 --> 00:34:49,860 We don't want to be on a list anymore. 377 00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:52,420 I heard he's a perfectly fine person. 378 00:34:52,420 --> 00:34:54,180 He's a sugar bear. He's a sugar bear. 379 00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:55,400 Yeah. 380 00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:56,500 Okay. 381 00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:57,540 And Snoop Dogg's wholesome. 382 00:35:02,020 --> 00:35:08,980 I'm starting to feel like did Snoop Dogg just have the most major of PR? 383 00:35:08,980 --> 00:35:14,740 Like, you know when like a PR person comes in and fucking turns it all around? 384 00:35:14,740 --> 00:35:17,620 Was this like the greatest PR turnaround of all time? 385 00:35:17,620 --> 00:35:19,540 I don't think he needs a PR person. 386 00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:23,620 I think he just comes out and says what's on his mind and people are like, all right, you're cool. 387 00:35:23,620 --> 00:35:24,660 Yeah, you're fucking cool. 388 00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:28,660 I mean, like he was drawing crowds just in school. 389 00:35:29,140 --> 00:35:35,940 But like how do you go from like a murder or whatever to like Martha Stewart's best friend? 390 00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:36,580 You know what I mean? 391 00:35:36,580 --> 00:35:38,660 Like that is some excellent... 392 00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:38,980 Money. 393 00:35:38,980 --> 00:35:39,940 I'm trying to tell you. 394 00:35:39,940 --> 00:35:41,060 Okay. Okay. Okay. 395 00:35:41,060 --> 00:35:43,300 Money helps. Money helps a lot. 396 00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:45,220 Collabs help a lot. 397 00:35:46,180 --> 00:35:51,060 I don't know, but he's like still like the king of like does not matter what he's done. 398 00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:54,500 He's still like just a cool, chill dude. 399 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,500 Yeah, of course. You know? 400 00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:56,980 You know? 401 00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:58,420 Yeah. So how do we get there? 402 00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:00,100 Yeah. Okay. Let's go back to your story. 403 00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:02,260 1991, Suge Knight kills Eazy-E. 404 00:36:03,620 --> 00:36:03,940 Yeah. 405 00:36:03,940 --> 00:36:04,820 I did not say that. 406 00:36:05,780 --> 00:36:06,340 Close enough. 407 00:36:06,340 --> 00:36:10,580 Listen to how Death Row Records started though. 408 00:36:10,580 --> 00:36:16,180 So it's basically just Suge Knight and Dre and this one other guy who's like a producer guy, 409 00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:17,700 and they need money. 410 00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:23,220 So they go to this guy named Michael Harry O. Harris, the godfather. 411 00:36:23,780 --> 00:36:26,980 This guy was in prison for 33 years. 412 00:36:26,980 --> 00:36:33,540 He was in prison because he was like the guy bringing crack to LA, period. 413 00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:36,740 He was working with the Bloods and the Crips and a Colombian cartel. 414 00:36:36,740 --> 00:36:38,820 So is he buying it directly from the CIA? 415 00:36:38,820 --> 00:36:40,260 Is that how that works? 416 00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:45,060 I cannot believe the CIA wasn't even mentioned when I read about Harry O. 417 00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:46,740 They're very good at their coverups. 418 00:36:46,740 --> 00:36:49,060 They can scrub the internet. They're good. 419 00:36:50,020 --> 00:36:52,020 They scrubbed Wikipedia super well. 420 00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:55,140 Yeah. They have somebody whose job is to literally delete, 421 00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:59,780 sit there all day deleting all the requests to. 422 00:36:59,780 --> 00:37:02,900 You know what? The CIA is the internet. 423 00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:03,140 Yeah. 424 00:37:03,140 --> 00:37:06,660 If it gets on there, they have a code that immediately deletes it. 425 00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:06,900 Right. 426 00:37:07,780 --> 00:37:09,860 I was actually reading about the- 427 00:37:09,860 --> 00:37:12,580 In fact, this podcast episode just got deleted. 428 00:37:12,580 --> 00:37:13,380 Just stopped happening. 429 00:37:15,220 --> 00:37:16,500 It's no longer on the internet. 430 00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:19,300 The CIA got us. 431 00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:24,900 When I was reading about the South Bronx burning in the 70s while hip hop was being invented, 432 00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:31,540 there was a reference to MK Ultra and the congressional hearings for MK Ultra were 433 00:37:31,540 --> 00:37:34,580 going on at the time and I didn't even click on it, you guys. 434 00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:38,500 I saved you an hour of editing markets, a fucking hour. 435 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:39,940 We'll talk about it later. 436 00:37:39,940 --> 00:37:41,460 Bonus episode. 437 00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:44,020 Bonus episode on, oh my God, on MK Ultra. 438 00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:44,260 That would be amazing. 439 00:37:44,260 --> 00:37:45,620 Did they make a copy? 440 00:37:45,620 --> 00:37:48,020 I don't know anything about MK Ultra, actually. 441 00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:50,500 I will find a way to work a copy into that story. 442 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:51,140 Stay tuned. 443 00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:52,740 How do I not know anything about it? 444 00:37:53,460 --> 00:37:57,300 Is this one of your 1970s weather underground things? 445 00:37:57,940 --> 00:37:59,380 It's right up in there. 446 00:37:59,380 --> 00:38:01,220 This is like a Black Panther thing. 447 00:38:01,220 --> 00:38:02,500 Oh, okay. 448 00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:03,620 It was before my time. 449 00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:09,540 Okay. 450 00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:12,820 This guy, Harry O, is making $2 million a day. 451 00:38:12,820 --> 00:38:19,220 He's got a nationwide crack ring that he is solely in charge of. 452 00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:22,820 He eventually gets busted. 453 00:38:22,820 --> 00:38:23,860 He's in prison. 454 00:38:23,860 --> 00:38:27,220 Somehow he keeps all his money, all of it. 455 00:38:27,220 --> 00:38:35,780 He's trying to make up for his bad deeds by just pumping money into small businesses 456 00:38:35,780 --> 00:38:36,500 in the community. 457 00:38:37,460 --> 00:38:39,460 There's another gray area dude. 458 00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:42,820 Was he a mobster, like an Italian mobster guy? 459 00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:44,180 No, he was a Black guy. 460 00:38:44,180 --> 00:38:47,220 He was a human being, an original gangster. 461 00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:50,260 He's what we call a plug in the industry. 462 00:38:52,740 --> 00:38:53,940 I don't know that term. 463 00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:55,220 Oh, he's a connector. 464 00:38:55,220 --> 00:38:56,900 He's the plug. 465 00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:57,940 He's the guy that you go to. 466 00:38:57,940 --> 00:38:58,900 Oh, I get it. 467 00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:01,060 But he sounds like a next level. 468 00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:03,380 He was the OG plug. 469 00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:04,900 Yeah, he was big. 470 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:05,860 He was a big guy. 471 00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:11,780 So they somehow, Suge Knight goes to prison and meets with him. 472 00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:13,060 And this guy ends up like... 473 00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:16,260 Wait, Suge Knight just goes to the visitor's room. 474 00:39:17,060 --> 00:39:18,980 On this particular occasion. 475 00:39:18,980 --> 00:39:24,020 Suge Knight just goes to visit and talks to Harry O. 476 00:39:24,020 --> 00:39:30,100 And he's like, yes, I will totally bankroll this death row records project. 477 00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:30,740 It's amazing. 478 00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:35,300 There's one other way that they got some money for their project, 479 00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:37,220 which is maybe you've heard the story. 480 00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:42,660 Vanilla Ice, the Ice Ice Baby song. 481 00:39:43,540 --> 00:39:50,660 Suge Knight managed a guy who supposedly wrote that song or helped write that song 482 00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:52,260 and didn't get any royalties. 483 00:39:52,260 --> 00:39:58,420 So this is the story about Suge Knight showing up at Vanilla Ice's hotel room, 484 00:39:58,420 --> 00:40:02,820 pulling him out on the balcony, dangling him by his ankles, 485 00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:07,780 and getting him to agree to turn over the royalties from Ice Ice Baby 486 00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:10,180 so that they could start up death row records with the money. 487 00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:11,940 My mouth is wide open. 488 00:40:11,940 --> 00:40:12,900 You have not heard that story? 489 00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:13,700 I have not. 490 00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:14,340 No. 491 00:40:14,340 --> 00:40:16,340 Apparently, it's slightly exaggerated. 492 00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:18,340 Later, Vanilla Ice said he didn't dangle me. 493 00:40:18,340 --> 00:40:20,420 He did threaten to throw me off the balcony. 494 00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:25,700 But the dangling over the balcony story was like a legend for like decades. 495 00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:30,740 And they did end up going to court over it or settling somehow eventually. 496 00:40:30,740 --> 00:40:36,020 But it was only after Suge Knight had like shown up several times 497 00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:38,020 and like threatened to kill Vanilla Ice. 498 00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:40,900 So it's like he, Suge Knight doesn't shake people down. 499 00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:42,020 He shugs people down. 500 00:40:44,020 --> 00:40:44,980 He got shugged down. 501 00:40:44,980 --> 00:40:46,500 I think he's going to like that, actually. 502 00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:47,380 You should send that to him. 503 00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:48,260 You should send him a letter. 504 00:40:48,260 --> 00:40:49,140 He's going to listen. 505 00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:50,740 He's going to listen to this episode. 506 00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:53,540 He's going to really appreciate how nice we've been to him. 507 00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:54,420 Dear Mr. Knight, 508 00:40:58,420 --> 00:41:00,340 you've recently been featured on our podcast. 509 00:41:03,940 --> 00:41:09,380 Before we move forward, I would like to tell you what happened eventually to Harry O, 510 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:13,060 the fucking godfather with all the money in prison. 511 00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:20,660 He was, what's the word when a president is like pardoned. 512 00:41:20,660 --> 00:41:21,220 Pardoned. 513 00:41:21,220 --> 00:41:22,180 I had a fucking, I almost called it. 514 00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:22,980 Was he pardoned by Donald? 515 00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:23,940 I almost said it. 516 00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:24,740 Wait, wait, wait. 517 00:41:24,740 --> 00:41:25,300 Let me guess. 518 00:41:26,340 --> 00:41:28,180 Not Bill Cosby, the other one. 519 00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:28,740 Bill Clinton. 520 00:41:28,740 --> 00:41:29,300 Bill Clinton. 521 00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:36,500 It was Donald Trump's last hour. 522 00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:36,900 Really? 523 00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:37,860 In the presidency. 524 00:41:37,860 --> 00:41:38,660 Nice. 525 00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:39,620 Snoop Dogg. 526 00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:43,220 Oh, is this why Snoop Dogg went to, didn't he go visit? 527 00:41:43,220 --> 00:41:49,860 Contacted Donald Trump and said, will you please consider pardoning my very good friend, 528 00:41:49,860 --> 00:41:50,980 Harry O. 529 00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:59,380 I recently learned that that process, it was like it said on the internet. 530 00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:03,060 So allegedly that process was a $2 million process. 531 00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:08,020 If you had $2 million, you could request a pardon. 532 00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:10,900 Donald Trump would give out any pardon for $2 million? 533 00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:11,860 No surprise there. 534 00:42:11,860 --> 00:42:15,300 That is petty change to Harry O and to Snoop Dogg. 535 00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:15,940 Allegedly. 536 00:42:15,940 --> 00:42:17,860 So that's great. 537 00:42:17,860 --> 00:42:23,700 Well, my understanding is if you were a celebrity, Donald Trump was like, hey, all right, cool. 538 00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:28,420 Because Kanye West and Kardashian got Kevin Gates pardoned too, I think. 539 00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:31,060 I think they got a woman pardoned too. 540 00:42:31,060 --> 00:42:33,460 Some woman who is locked up. 541 00:42:34,660 --> 00:42:35,780 This was a good one. 542 00:42:35,780 --> 00:42:40,740 Like some woman who was locked up for something bogus, like killing her attacker or something 543 00:42:40,740 --> 00:42:41,300 like that. 544 00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:42,340 Oh, okay. 545 00:42:42,340 --> 00:42:43,700 Killing her abuser. 546 00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:44,180 Look. 547 00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:49,140 Kardashian went ahead and managed a relationship with Donald Trump and got her pardoned. 548 00:42:49,140 --> 00:42:51,220 That should be Donald Trump's legacy right there. 549 00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:52,100 Look, you know what? 550 00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:53,540 The guy wasn't all bad. 551 00:42:53,540 --> 00:43:00,020 He would take a bribe and do the right thing accidentally for the right price. 552 00:43:00,020 --> 00:43:00,500 Yeah. 553 00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:01,860 You know what? 554 00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:03,300 That's fine, I guess. 555 00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:08,740 If you can be bought into doing the right thing sometimes, I guess. 556 00:43:08,740 --> 00:43:12,260 And that is really like American policy right there. 557 00:43:12,260 --> 00:43:12,900 Yeah. 558 00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:15,860 I mean, yeah, is he really doing anything that's un-American here? 559 00:43:16,420 --> 00:43:17,140 I guess not. 560 00:43:17,860 --> 00:43:23,140 I said I wasn't going to tell any Suge Knight stories, but you just reminded me of a good one. 561 00:43:24,740 --> 00:43:30,340 Later on when things were kind of falling apart at Death Row, I'm going outside my timeline now, 562 00:43:30,340 --> 00:43:35,060 and Michael Harris, Harry O was still in prison. 563 00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:38,020 His wife was actually like handling a lot of things. 564 00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:41,620 He was making a lot of decisions for Death Row from prison. 565 00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:46,340 And by the way, currently Death Row Records is owned by Snoop Dogg, 566 00:43:46,340 --> 00:43:49,060 and the chief operations officer is Harry O. 567 00:43:49,780 --> 00:43:50,260 Amazing. 568 00:43:50,260 --> 00:43:50,820 Wow. 569 00:43:50,820 --> 00:43:50,980 Cool. 570 00:43:50,980 --> 00:43:52,980 So they're still super tight. 571 00:43:52,980 --> 00:43:55,460 Wait, if he got locked up, what, would that have been the 90s? 572 00:43:55,460 --> 00:43:57,300 Wasn't he about to get out anyways? 573 00:43:57,300 --> 00:43:59,220 What was Donald Trump pardoning? 574 00:43:59,220 --> 00:44:00,580 Because didn't you say Harry O got locked up for 33 years? 575 00:44:00,580 --> 00:44:02,980 He had like another eight years or something ago. 576 00:44:02,980 --> 00:44:03,300 Oh, okay. 577 00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:03,780 Yeah. 578 00:44:03,780 --> 00:44:05,060 He served quite a few years. 579 00:44:05,060 --> 00:44:05,560 Yeah. 580 00:44:07,620 --> 00:44:15,620 So his wife, Suge Knight was not paying, was not giving his wife the money that he, 581 00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:19,620 not Suge's wife, Harry O's wife, was supposed to be collecting money from Suge, 582 00:44:19,620 --> 00:44:21,140 and Suge was not paying her. 583 00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:24,980 And that ended up being like a lawsuit. 584 00:44:24,980 --> 00:44:30,100 And it was like a situation where like, Suge's house got raided, 585 00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:34,020 and they like looked at all of his accounts, and they were going to like take his money 586 00:44:34,020 --> 00:44:36,820 because this was like a legit business deal on paper. 587 00:44:36,820 --> 00:44:44,180 And I feel like you do, if you, I feel like it's extremely irresponsible to try to fucking cheat 588 00:44:44,180 --> 00:44:45,060 this Harry O guy. 589 00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:46,100 Yeah, that's a bad idea. 590 00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:49,540 I feel like this guy is like top level. 591 00:44:50,180 --> 00:44:53,140 I mean, I know Suge Knight is like super badass and everything, 592 00:44:53,140 --> 00:44:55,300 but like you still got to kind of know your place. 593 00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:56,500 I know, exactly. 594 00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:57,860 I feel like this was not a good idea. 595 00:44:57,860 --> 00:44:58,820 It was a bad idea. 596 00:44:58,820 --> 00:45:05,140 But they like investigate Suge Knight, and he literally has like $11 in his bank account, 597 00:45:05,140 --> 00:45:06,100 supposedly. 598 00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:08,820 So like, I don't think he was actually bankrupt. 599 00:45:08,820 --> 00:45:10,820 I think he just had it like hidden in other places. 600 00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:12,020 Oh, he had already moved it. 601 00:45:12,020 --> 00:45:12,660 Yeah. 602 00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:14,580 But that was funny. 603 00:45:14,580 --> 00:45:22,340 He had like $25,000 in jewelry, $2,000 in clothing, and $11 in his bank account was like 604 00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:23,540 all of his assets. 605 00:45:23,540 --> 00:45:24,980 Like that's just what's on him. 606 00:45:24,980 --> 00:45:25,460 Right. 607 00:45:25,460 --> 00:45:25,700 That's like... 608 00:45:26,580 --> 00:45:27,220 Yeah. 609 00:45:27,220 --> 00:45:27,860 You know what? 610 00:45:27,860 --> 00:45:32,820 That's a, you know, I think that the guy from our last episode would tell him he's a very 611 00:45:32,820 --> 00:45:33,620 smart businessman. 612 00:45:33,620 --> 00:45:36,900 I didn't get it right. 613 00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:38,820 Or two episodes ago, I should say. 614 00:45:38,820 --> 00:45:39,060 Yeah. 615 00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:42,020 It was in Puerto Rico. 616 00:45:42,020 --> 00:45:43,300 That's where all the money was. 617 00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:46,020 Shout out to whoever made me this gin and juice. 618 00:45:46,020 --> 00:45:46,260 Yeah. 619 00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:47,300 I really appreciate it. 620 00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:53,060 Yeah, you know, I felt like it was episode appropriate to sip on some gin and juice. 621 00:45:53,060 --> 00:45:54,420 And CBD juice. 622 00:45:54,420 --> 00:45:54,820 Yeah. 623 00:45:54,820 --> 00:45:58,980 And CBD infused Alderberry and passion fruit juice. 624 00:45:58,980 --> 00:46:00,500 High class. 625 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:02,180 I feel it healing me. 626 00:46:02,180 --> 00:46:04,500 Is your mind on your money or is your money on your mind? 627 00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:10,580 Because I got both. 628 00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:12,740 I feel like that's not... 629 00:46:12,740 --> 00:46:14,900 I feel like when Snoop says it, it's a good thing. 630 00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:18,020 But when I say my money is on my mind, it's like a negative. 631 00:46:18,020 --> 00:46:20,420 It's like you can't stop thinking about being broke. 632 00:46:22,180 --> 00:46:22,900 Oh, I see. 633 00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:25,060 That's like the... 634 00:46:25,060 --> 00:46:25,300 Yeah. 635 00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:27,940 Okay. 636 00:46:27,940 --> 00:46:29,780 So let me see if I can get this timeline right. 637 00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:32,420 So 1992. 638 00:46:32,420 --> 00:46:35,060 1991, Death Row Records. 639 00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:35,700 Boom. 640 00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:39,540 1992, Dre releases The Chronic. 641 00:46:39,540 --> 00:46:44,420 And Snoop is like the special guest star on 10 out of the 15 tracks. 642 00:46:44,420 --> 00:46:45,060 Babam. 643 00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:46,660 And like steals the show. 644 00:46:46,660 --> 00:46:47,380 Nice. 645 00:46:47,380 --> 00:46:48,740 Nobody raps like this guy. 646 00:46:48,740 --> 00:46:50,900 His voice like rap up to this point. 647 00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:53,620 There was like a lot of angry yelling, right? 648 00:46:53,620 --> 00:46:56,340 And like all of a sudden Snoop comes in with this like... 649 00:46:56,340 --> 00:46:59,460 Somebody called him a molasses drawl. 650 00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:03,460 Just like soft and slow, but fast at the same time. 651 00:47:03,460 --> 00:47:04,420 How does he do that? 652 00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:05,300 I don't know. 653 00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:05,860 Amazing. 654 00:47:05,860 --> 00:47:11,860 So that comes out... 655 00:47:11,860 --> 00:47:14,660 I didn't write down the month, but it's 1992. 656 00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:20,900 August of 1993 is the shooting incident that Snoop is involved in. 657 00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:27,300 So he's already sort of famous for being on The Chronic all over the place. 658 00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:33,060 And three months after the shooting, he's going to release Doggy Style. 659 00:47:33,060 --> 00:47:35,860 And it is going to be amazing. 660 00:47:35,860 --> 00:47:39,380 So he's like right on the cusp of fame. 661 00:47:39,380 --> 00:47:40,580 He has... 662 00:47:40,580 --> 00:47:46,820 With money from The Chronic, he has purchased a new car and he's moved to a nicer apartment. 663 00:47:46,820 --> 00:47:49,620 But like that his life is the same. 664 00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:50,340 You know what I mean? 665 00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:52,580 It's like he's living the same life. 666 00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:58,820 So he has a run in at some point with this guy named Philip Woldemariam. 667 00:47:58,820 --> 00:48:03,780 And Philip pulls a gun on Snoop. 668 00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:06,180 And it's some kind of like, you just moved to this neighborhood. 669 00:48:06,180 --> 00:48:07,220 This is my neighborhood. 670 00:48:07,220 --> 00:48:08,980 And you need to know your place. 671 00:48:08,980 --> 00:48:10,020 You think you're hot shit. 672 00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:10,580 You're not. 673 00:48:10,580 --> 00:48:11,700 It's like that kind of thing. 674 00:48:12,660 --> 00:48:14,020 But nothing comes of it. 675 00:48:14,020 --> 00:48:18,260 You know, Snoop is just like, all right, you know, and like walks away from it. 676 00:48:18,260 --> 00:48:28,660 So sometime weeks later, and this is August of 93, Snoop is in his apartment with his bodyguard. 677 00:48:28,660 --> 00:48:33,060 And he hears something, an altercation outside. 678 00:48:33,060 --> 00:48:37,940 So he looks out the window and he sees his friend, Sean Abrams, outside. 679 00:48:37,940 --> 00:48:42,580 And there's like this car full of gang bangers from the neighborhood. 680 00:48:42,580 --> 00:48:46,020 And one of them is this filled up Woldemariam guy. 681 00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:51,140 I just want to put out a note too, just to paint a picture of the 90s. 682 00:48:51,780 --> 00:48:53,620 Like I feel like the 90s everywhere. 683 00:48:54,660 --> 00:48:58,100 Like high gang activity, high lawlessness. 684 00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:00,660 Like drug dealing, crime. 685 00:49:00,660 --> 00:49:02,900 Everything I feel like was wild in the 90s. 686 00:49:03,620 --> 00:49:08,340 So like even though Snoop's dog's getting some fame, moving up into maybe a nicer apartment 687 00:49:08,340 --> 00:49:12,660 or whatever, I feel like this is why there's still like drama. 688 00:49:12,660 --> 00:49:14,820 There's so much drama in the LBC. 689 00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:16,820 And like just everywhere though. 690 00:49:16,820 --> 00:49:19,460 New York, Chicago, everywhere. 691 00:49:19,460 --> 00:49:21,860 So much Aurora, Illinois. 692 00:49:21,860 --> 00:49:22,420 That's true. 693 00:49:22,420 --> 00:49:23,780 Aurora was a mess back then. 694 00:49:23,780 --> 00:49:24,180 Yeah. 695 00:49:24,180 --> 00:49:26,420 So everything was a mess in the 90s. 696 00:49:26,420 --> 00:49:26,920 Yeah. 697 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,000 I think those are the top four messes. 698 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,600 The 90s? 699 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,120 Yeah. You said New York, LA, Chicago, and Aurora. 700 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:34,680 Top four. 701 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,560 Top four. 702 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:36,060 Yeah. 703 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,720 So Snoop is in his apartment with his bodyguard, Malik. 704 00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:43,800 And he sends, is that his name? 705 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:44,200 Malik. 706 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:49,880 Yeah. He sends Malik down to the car and whatever Malik says or does or shows them, 707 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,960 they drive away and everything's fine. 708 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,440 Cool. 709 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:59,160 So later that same night, Snoop and Malik and this Sean Abrams guy are driving around 710 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,440 in Snoop's new Jeep. 711 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,200 And Snoop is driving and Malik is in the passenger seat. 712 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:09,240 And they pull up to this park and this guy, Philip Waldemariam. 713 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:11,480 Why is he driving at night going to a park? 714 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,680 Because they're driving around. 715 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,560 You know, it's the 90s. 716 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,120 What do you do? 717 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,840 I mean, that's true. 718 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,640 It was the 90s. 719 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,720 Allegedly, he was going to the recording studio. 720 00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:18,220 Okay. 721 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:20,440 So they- 722 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,680 I just kind of, I want to be fair here and give this like a unbiased questioning. 723 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,280 Back when gas was like under a fucking dollar, you just drove around. 724 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:28,780 That's true. 725 00:50:28,780 --> 00:50:30,440 It's like 95 cents a gallon. 726 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:30,940 Yeah. 727 00:50:30,940 --> 00:50:31,440 You're right. 728 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:31,940 Exactly. 729 00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:32,440 It's true. 730 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,320 You just fucking drive around, do nothing, fucking waste gas. 731 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,240 The prosecutor did suggest that they were hunting these guys. 732 00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:41,640 That was suggested that they were out looking for them. 733 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:48,200 So they pull up to this park and Philip and a couple of his buddies are sitting at a picnic 734 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,560 table eating Mexican food as one does late at night in LA. 735 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,520 Just having a picnic. 736 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,020 Sounds so good. 737 00:50:53,020 --> 00:50:53,800 A late night picnic. 738 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:54,300 Sounds great. 739 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,080 There's some sort of confrontation. 740 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,600 Malik never gets out of the car. 741 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:01,720 Nobody gets out of the car. 742 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,400 Can I just say that Philip Wozniak or whatever his last name is, 743 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,680 is like the least gangster name ever. 744 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:11,180 That's all. 745 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,000 He's 20 years old and he's an Ethiopian immigrant. 746 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,840 It is a strange name. 747 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:17,480 Yeah. 748 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,360 Well, it could be from colonial days. 749 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,880 It sounds like a colonial era name. 750 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,000 Don't fuck with Philip. 751 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,080 Woldemiriam. 752 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,040 Woldemiriam? 753 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:28,280 Yeah. 754 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,480 That guy's a hard ass. 755 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,720 I wonder what his mom called him when he was a baby. 756 00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:32,220 Aw. 757 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:33,800 Philip Woldemiriam. 758 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,480 So it's a tapless Jeep that they're driving in and Malik stands up in the Jeep and is 759 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:48,040 like yelling at these guys and Philip gets up from the table and starts walking towards the Jeep. 760 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,240 And, you know, here's where things are a little iffy. 761 00:51:53,240 --> 00:52:01,720 Like, allegedly Philip is drawing his gun before Malik's shoes. 762 00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:02,520 Self defense. 763 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,020 Yes. 764 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,760 The prosecutor tries to say that Philip was shot in the back, but the... 765 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,280 Exit wound? 766 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,560 The gun evidence or whatever? 767 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,600 The guy, yeah, whoever the corner or whatever. 768 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,200 He says it went through his side. 769 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,000 So it went like directly through from one side of him to the other side. 770 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:32,440 His two friends that were with him, Jason London and Sean Joseph, both hid the gun. 771 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,960 They took the gun, they hid the gun, said there was no gun. 772 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,240 He was never armed. 773 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,480 That's a little sus. 774 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,080 A little sus. 775 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,000 Jason London ends up admitting on the stand that they did hide the gun. 776 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:52,280 And he also says on the stand that Philip had a reputation for irrational behavior 777 00:52:52,920 --> 00:53:00,040 and that he was drawing on the car and that it was like legit self-defense. 778 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,480 His testimony really saved Snoop's ass. 779 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:14,360 And also what didn't hurt was the prosecutor in his opening statements admitting that the LAPD 780 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,400 had fucked up majorly and there was a ton of missing evidence, including the clothing 781 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,520 Philip was wearing, shell casings from the scene. 782 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,800 That all would have been helpful. 783 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,960 Everything just fucking disappeared. 784 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:33,400 And there were several jurors who could visibly rolled their eyes when the prosecutor says this, 785 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,720 because this is immediately following the OJ Simpson trial. 786 00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:42,040 There's so much bullshit going on with the LAPD at this point. 787 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:47,480 I meant to look up when is this in connection with Rodney King and all that. 788 00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:50,520 People hate the LAPD. 789 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,160 Everybody hates the LAPD. 790 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,880 I feel like the LAPD is problematic and has always been problematic. 791 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,800 I don't know how they are today, but I imagine there's probably still problematic. 792 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,320 Yeah, this was kind of the height of their bad reputation, I feel. 793 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,520 I feel like this was- 794 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:09,160 There was just that fucking city council controversy, the racism at the city council, 795 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,160 the very tippy top of the city council, and they're all in bed together. 796 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,680 I'm sorry, but that's how it works in local government. 797 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,920 But did they lose that stuff on purpose to help Snoop dogs? 798 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:25,960 I don't think so. 799 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,560 I think they were just fucking war on them. 800 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:34,120 They just fucking show up and they're like, eh, do the bare minimum, black on black crime. 801 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,640 They don't give a fuck, man. 802 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,280 Yeah, they're probably just like up some fucking gangster kids shooting at each other again. 803 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,560 I don't see why Snoop Dogg needed to be at that park to begin with. 804 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,680 You know what I mean? 805 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,040 Unless they just went there to talk trash or they were driving by the park and they 806 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,960 happened to see him there and were like, let's talk trash. 807 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,560 I mean, that's what they say is that they just happened to spot him. 808 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,240 But they could have just kept driving. 809 00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:00,440 They didn't need to stop and talk trash. 810 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,640 And that was Snoop driving and that's why Snoop was in so much trouble too. 811 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,200 But then on the other hand, they're just young punks at that age. 812 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,000 You know what I mean? 813 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,760 And kids in the neighborhood, you know. 814 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,120 Kids, late teens, early twenties are fucking dumbasses. 815 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,600 I don't care where you live, you're a dumbass. 816 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,120 Don't forget how young they were. 817 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:18,840 That's right. 818 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,340 Yeah. 819 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,920 But that still sucks that that kid had to die. 820 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:23,880 Yeah, it does. 821 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,000 I don't like that. 822 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:31,000 I do believe there was some sort of civil suit eventually and Snoop ended up 823 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,360 paying their family some money. 824 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:38,920 And he has said that he stopped talking about murder and death in his lyrics after that incident. 825 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,520 I mean, yeah, I would hope that it would be somewhat traumatic. 826 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,320 Smart too. 827 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,320 I mean, you know, in case shit happens, they're like, 828 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,680 they're like, Snoop's always rapping about killing people. 829 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:49,240 Well, I guess that's true too. 830 00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:50,440 They use it against you. 831 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,080 That's true. 832 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:51,880 He's a murderer. 833 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:57,000 You would hope that it was like witnessing the death of somebody though that kind of fucks with somebody. 834 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:57,480 Maybe. 835 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,040 Maybe. 836 00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,560 It could also be protection. 837 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:00,040 You hope? 838 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,560 It could be that too. 839 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:09,560 Anyways, probably his like, I'll bet you his attorney was like, number one advice, stop fucking rapping about killing people, you dumbass. 840 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:15,320 All right. 841 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,520 So the shooting itself happens August 25th, 1993. 842 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,320 November of 93, Doggy Style comes out. 843 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:31,640 This is the first and only album in the history of music ever to debut as a first album at number one. 844 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,120 Wow. 845 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,160 It debuted at number one on the regular Billboard charts. 846 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,160 Number one in rap and R&B also, but number one on the Billboard charts. 847 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,960 Well, they say no press is bad press. 848 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:42,440 That's true. 849 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,480 It's actually not that funny. 850 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:53,160 I do kind of wonder if the trajectory would have been any different if this hadn't happened because there was so much press around it. 851 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,360 I mean, he was a fucking household name at that point, I'm sure. 852 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,400 And the chronic and everybody knew he was good. 853 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,120 They liked his voice. 854 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:00,840 They wanted more of it. 855 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,120 So it's like he was already like. 856 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,120 You know how the fucking tabloids are though. 857 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:09,000 You have one person who like just had a bunch of hits, then his neck is broken. 858 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:15,320 You have one person who just had a bunch of hits, then is now on trial for murder, and then their album comes out. 859 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:15,960 Right. 860 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,480 Boom, boom, boom. 861 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,920 I would probably just go murder someone on purpose just to get that kind of. 862 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:21,640 Get that kind of. 863 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,160 No, I'm just kidding. 864 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,200 I would never murder anybody. 865 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:24,440 You know what? 866 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:24,760 Maybe. 867 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:25,880 Marcus, cut that. 868 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,000 Maybe people would listen to this fucking podcast a little more, Jenny. 869 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,520 If you would just take one for the team. 870 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,520 And go murder someone. 871 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,400 Go murder someone. 872 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,440 Who should I murder? 873 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,480 Who deserves it? 874 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,240 Let's talk about that after the podcast because I've got some ideas. 875 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,000 I don't want to murder anyone. 876 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:42,600 How about this? 877 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,760 You're not going to get famous without rapping about murder. 878 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,640 I would rather have like a sex tape go viral. 879 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:48,600 Oh yeah, that's fine. 880 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,040 I would rather have that than murder. 881 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,480 Who are you going to make a sex tape with? 882 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,440 I could be convinced. 883 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,720 I need someone more famous than you. 884 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:57,560 No offense. 885 00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:58,120 Suge Knight. 886 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,520 Oh boy. 887 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,640 I'm going to move along. 888 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,600 I'm just going to move along. 889 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,000 I think yeah, you should definitely move on. 890 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,840 Shall I brew some coffee? 891 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:15,340 No. 892 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,920 All right, the shooting happens in August of 93. 893 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:32,200 The album comes out November of 93, a year later, September of 94, the MTV Music Awards. 894 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,640 I don't know if you guys remember this. 895 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,920 I watched a clip and I was like, holy shit, I remember this. 896 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,240 Wasn't there a shooting at the MTV Music Awards? 897 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,040 Not this one. 898 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:40,840 Not this one. 899 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,040 Not 1994. 900 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:52,520 This is the one where Michael Jackson and Elvis's daughter, Lisa Marie Presley, come out and 901 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:58,440 they're like allegedly dating and they like make out on stage, but it's super weird. 902 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,360 And Roseanne Barr was hosting. 903 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,200 And the lineup of performers is crazy. 904 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,440 There's just like, I mean, this was like also kind of the height of MTV, right? 905 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,920 It's just like a really big deal. 906 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,000 So Snoop Dogg comes out and performs Murder Was the Case. 907 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:16,600 You remember that song? 908 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:17,880 I do remember that song. 909 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,320 And it's like there's a whole gospel choir on stage. 910 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,480 There's a coffin on stage. 911 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:28,280 Snoop gets like rolled out in a wheelchair and then like miraculously stands up and starts 912 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,680 walking and. 913 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,960 Is he acquitted of murder at this point? 914 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:32,600 No. 915 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,080 OK. 916 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,640 He is about to face trial. 917 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,520 Oh, so he's not. 918 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:37,080 OK. 919 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,000 He performs the song. 920 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:44,280 At the end of the song, he repeats several times, I'm innocent, I'm innocent, I'm innocent. 921 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,880 He leaves the awards show and turns himself in. 922 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,080 Like that is it. 923 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:56,920 He like has to, he like makes this arrangement between the DA and his lawyer that he's going 924 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:02,200 to show up for the MTV Awards before he has to go to jail. 925 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,200 Wait, what's he going to jail for? 926 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,200 He has to go to jail for the murder? 927 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:06,440 Yes. 928 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,680 He doesn't get to be out, but he's already out on bail. 929 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:15,000 He was out with like an ankle monitor or he was in hiding and then went and got the ankle 930 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,240 monitor after the MTV Awards. 931 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,920 I'm a little confused by the timeline. 932 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,920 Oh, were they like building a case against him for like a year? 933 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:23,240 Yes. 934 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,600 And they finally decided. 935 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,600 Two years before he finally went to trial. 936 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,200 I see. So they waited to indict him for like a year and then. 937 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:30,520 Yes. 938 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,760 And then right after that, they're like, hey. 939 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,400 It was like right before the MTV Awards, they were like, we're arresting you. 940 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,200 You have to come in. 941 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,120 And his lawyer was like, oh, can you just do this award show real quick? 942 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,480 So it was like literally the same night. 943 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,880 You just rap about murder really quick. 944 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,720 Totally, totally unrelated guys. 945 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,040 But, you know, he's just got this little thing. 946 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:55,320 Oh, my God. 947 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,680 Prior to getting arrested. 948 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,640 When you're rich and famous, they let you do it. 949 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:00,760 I guess they don't care. 950 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,400 Yeah, they don't. 951 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,080 You can get you get all sorts of special treatment. 952 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:07,560 Yeah, they're like, well, he signed some autographs when he was arrested 953 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,240 because we can make that happen. 954 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:15,160 He and Malik, the bodyguard and the other guy in the car are all charged. 955 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,600 The other guy ends up all the charges are dropped against the other guy. 956 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,120 Snoop and Malik go to trial. 957 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:26,920 They're both on trial for murder, voluntary manslaughter, conspiracy to commit assault 958 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,680 because they intentionally went there, allegedly, according to the prosecutor. 959 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:36,600 And Snoop is accused of accessory after the fact because of being the one to drive the car. 960 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:37,080 Right. 961 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,560 So did they just drive away? 962 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,560 It was like a hit and run, basically? 963 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,120 Yes. 964 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:48,840 They drove away and his friends pulled the body away and like jumped it in like a 965 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,240 part covered parking so that it wasn't right on the street and hid the gun. 966 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,240 Jesus. 967 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:56,440 This whole thing is a mess. 968 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:57,400 It was really bad. 969 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:04,280 So the jury finds them not guilty on all charges except the voluntary manslaughter charge. 970 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,400 They were it was a mistrial. 971 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,600 It was like, um, like they couldn't agree. 972 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,760 Yeah, it was like nine to three or something in favor of acquittal. 973 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,640 And they decided not to retry them. 974 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:22,440 Those charges, if they were in Florida, they wouldn't even brought those charges. 975 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,560 Stand your ground. 976 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:24,040 Yeah. 977 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,720 Oh, well, but they were out in I thought standard. 978 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,560 Oh, it is like on the street, too. 979 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,240 I was thinking I was just in your yard. 980 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,800 I think you can just murder anybody anywhere in Florida. 981 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:34,760 It's fine. 982 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:35,720 If you're black. 983 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,480 That's where you should go. 984 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,040 If you want to make our podcast popular. 985 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:40,600 Yeah. 986 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,560 When I need to murder somebody, I'll go to Florida to do it. 987 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,560 It's okay. 988 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:46,760 You can kill anybody. 989 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,200 You can kill anybody in Florida. 990 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,160 You can kill children. 991 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,960 You can kill teenagers. 992 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:53,480 You can kill anyone. 993 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:54,360 It's fine. 994 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,720 Ron DeSantis says it's okay. 995 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,920 No, that's why he's going to be president. 996 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:04,520 It's okay to kill them, but it's not okay to talk about them getting killed. 997 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:05,020 Yeah. 998 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,480 You can't talk about them if they were black and you killed them or gay. 999 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,200 Trans. 1000 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:11,640 You can't talk about them if they're trans. 1001 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:11,880 Okay. 1002 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,080 You can only kill them. 1003 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:13,580 Okay. 1004 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,640 But you can't talk about it. 1005 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,000 You can't. 1006 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,840 Can you write a rap song about it? 1007 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,040 You can brag about it. 1008 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,920 But you can't talk about how their life had meaning. 1009 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,480 Oh, gotcha. 1010 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,120 You can talk about how you felt threatened by their transness. 1011 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:28,760 Yeah, there it is. 1012 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,760 We're laughing because it's so ludicrous, not because it's funny. 1013 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:37,260 Yes. 1014 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:39,080 All right. 1015 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,760 We're going to skip ahead in the timeline because I mean, whatever, he releases some albums. 1016 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:43,880 He's very successful. 1017 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,240 Everything's going great. 1018 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,680 That was successful. 1019 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:51,080 He released like every album ever was successful for like 20 years. 1020 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,840 He's just been a smashing success. 1021 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:53,640 Smashing success. 1022 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,320 There was a fallout with Suge Knight and he's talked some shit about Suge Knight, 1023 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,960 which I'm like, I don't care how famous you are. 1024 01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:00,840 You probably still shouldn't do that. 1025 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,600 Snoop Lion, then he turned to Evol. 1026 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:03,100 Right? 1027 01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:04,280 Yeah, that was so weird. 1028 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,360 He's been like a Rastafarian. 1029 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,480 He was with Nation of Islam for like a minute. 1030 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:11,980 Okay. 1031 01:04:11,980 --> 01:04:14,200 I think maybe there's just too many rules there. 1032 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,400 Yeah. 1033 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:16,840 I think he's trying to find himself. 1034 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,360 He's got all this in his life, but does he have meaning? 1035 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,640 He's back with Jesus now. 1036 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:22,760 He's back in the J Camp? 1037 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:23,400 Yeah, back in... 1038 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:34,440 The only, the other thing that I wanted to talk about for a minute, in 2003, he did a tour. 1039 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,840 By the way, we talked about his wife recently. 1040 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,600 He has been married this whole time. 1041 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:39,560 He has three kids. 1042 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,720 He has four kids because in between two of his kids, he had another kid 1043 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:49,080 with another woman who, by the way, was also a previous high school girlfriend. 1044 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,760 He's like only into girls he was into in high school. 1045 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,120 That's cool. 1046 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:55,980 Same. 1047 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,880 Did you know Marcus and I met long after he got out of high school? 1048 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,080 Is there something you're trying to tell me? 1049 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:05,880 No, just kidding. 1050 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,960 You got some high school girls on the side? 1051 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:11,100 No. 1052 01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:13,340 I don't like the way that sounded. 1053 01:05:14,700 --> 01:05:16,300 They're not high school girls. 1054 01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:18,220 They're girls he went to high school with. 1055 01:05:19,180 --> 01:05:20,860 There's a huge difference. 1056 01:05:20,860 --> 01:05:21,660 Huge difference. 1057 01:05:22,620 --> 01:05:23,100 Okay, you're right. 1058 01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:23,900 Several decades. 1059 01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:25,100 That does sound very gross. 1060 01:05:27,420 --> 01:05:31,580 So his wife is obviously like a very, I don't know if they have like an arrangement 1061 01:05:31,580 --> 01:05:36,540 or if she's just extremely forgiving or what the deal is there, but- 1062 01:05:36,540 --> 01:05:37,020 Money. 1063 01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:39,820 Again, I think I said earlier in the episode, but I think money helps. 1064 01:05:39,820 --> 01:05:40,620 With a lot of things. 1065 01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:42,620 I mean, you can get divorced and still have money. 1066 01:05:42,620 --> 01:05:43,980 She could still have plenty of money. 1067 01:05:43,980 --> 01:05:48,140 Yeah, but I'm saying like, but you know, you have to do the math and it's like, 1068 01:05:48,140 --> 01:05:49,740 do we get separated and then we have this? 1069 01:05:49,740 --> 01:05:51,420 And it's like she loves him, you know? 1070 01:05:51,420 --> 01:05:51,920 Right. 1071 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:52,460 She loves him. 1072 01:05:52,460 --> 01:05:52,940 Exactly. 1073 01:05:52,940 --> 01:05:54,780 So at the end of the day, you're like, ah, we'll just stay together. 1074 01:05:54,780 --> 01:05:56,540 Hey, Han, I want to hear about their relationship. 1075 01:05:56,540 --> 01:05:57,020 Yeah. 1076 01:05:57,020 --> 01:06:03,580 Well, this is actually about like something so far outside their relationship that it's 1077 01:06:03,580 --> 01:06:05,820 like unbelievable that he got away with this. 1078 01:06:05,820 --> 01:06:11,420 So when he was a little boy, he always dreamed of being a pimp. 1079 01:06:11,420 --> 01:06:11,920 Oh. 1080 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,420 But because he like saw a movie or something. 1081 01:06:15,420 --> 01:06:15,920 Right. 1082 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:22,620 So in 2003, he goes on a tour and decides, this is my big chance. 1083 01:06:22,620 --> 01:06:25,020 I'm going to be a pimp finally. 1084 01:06:25,020 --> 01:06:30,220 So he gets like a bunch of prostitutes and gets them a separate bus. 1085 01:06:30,220 --> 01:06:31,420 Wait, in 2003. 1086 01:06:31,420 --> 01:06:34,620 So this is like 10 years after he's been famous. 1087 01:06:34,620 --> 01:06:36,220 Yes. 1088 01:06:36,220 --> 01:06:36,720 OK. 1089 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:37,220 Yes. 1090 01:06:37,220 --> 01:06:43,420 But guys, I'd like to remind you his lesson learned, a pimpin' ain't easy. 1091 01:06:43,420 --> 01:06:45,020 No, he loved it actually. 1092 01:06:45,020 --> 01:06:45,620 Oh, OK. 1093 01:06:45,620 --> 01:06:47,220 He was a natural, he says. 1094 01:06:47,220 --> 01:06:48,220 Oh. 1095 01:06:48,220 --> 01:06:52,520 OK, let's put this in a business perspective. 1096 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,220 Like, let's take Las Vegas, for example. 1097 01:06:55,220 --> 01:06:57,620 They have like places. 1098 01:06:57,620 --> 01:07:00,620 No, actually, it is completely illegal in Las Vegas. 1099 01:07:00,620 --> 01:07:01,620 It's legal in Nevada. 1100 01:07:01,620 --> 01:07:02,920 OK, Nevada, Nevada. 1101 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,920 So like the state of Nevada, that's what I meant to say. 1102 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,720 You know, like you may be a person who says, 1103 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:15,920 I would like to be a middleman for sex. 1104 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,220 And there are women who want to make money. 1105 01:07:19,220 --> 01:07:22,620 And there are men who want to pay them. 1106 01:07:22,620 --> 01:07:25,020 And maybe like, well, let's talk about two. 1107 01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:30,820 Like, I think pimps get a bad rap because so many of them 1108 01:07:30,820 --> 01:07:34,620 are about the control and abuse of women. 1109 01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:36,920 Now, if somebody comes in and is like, 1110 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:43,020 I would like to be an ethical middle person of sexual transaction. 1111 01:07:43,020 --> 01:07:46,420 Right, between two consenting adults and you're just looking for a demographic. 1112 01:07:46,420 --> 01:07:47,820 You're just a facilitator. 1113 01:07:47,820 --> 01:07:48,620 That's right. 1114 01:07:48,620 --> 01:07:49,220 Exactly. 1115 01:07:49,220 --> 01:07:51,220 It's like a business decision. 1116 01:07:51,220 --> 01:07:53,020 It's still fucking weird. 1117 01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:58,020 It's not on me, on what people want to post on my website. 1118 01:07:58,020 --> 01:08:01,420 It's just I'm facilitating the transaction, 1119 01:08:01,420 --> 01:08:03,420 but I don't care what they're saying to each other. 1120 01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:04,420 Well, I mean, it does. 1121 01:08:04,420 --> 01:08:07,220 It's like, I think one of the jobs of a pimp 1122 01:08:07,220 --> 01:08:14,820 is to protect the women from being like from men. 1123 01:08:14,820 --> 01:08:15,820 Listen, stop. 1124 01:08:15,820 --> 01:08:19,820 From predatory men and predatory clients. 1125 01:08:19,820 --> 01:08:23,620 So if somebody can be an ethical protector of women 1126 01:08:23,620 --> 01:08:28,020 who would like to make money in this fashion, 1127 01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:32,620 then I think there is a place where this is OK. 1128 01:08:32,620 --> 01:08:33,120 OK. 1129 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:33,620 I think that the- 1130 01:08:33,620 --> 01:08:34,520 You're Chinese pro pimp. 1131 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:35,020 No, I'm- 1132 01:08:35,020 --> 01:08:35,920 I am- 1133 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:36,620 When I'm pro- 1134 01:08:36,620 --> 01:08:37,620 Put that on a t-shirt. 1135 01:08:37,620 --> 01:08:38,120 Yeah. 1136 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:42,620 I would say what I am is pro women making money in a way 1137 01:08:42,620 --> 01:08:44,820 that they feel comfortable making money. 1138 01:08:44,820 --> 01:08:48,020 And I am pro women doing it in a way that is safe 1139 01:08:48,020 --> 01:08:49,620 and that they are protected. 1140 01:08:49,620 --> 01:08:50,420 It's like a manager. 1141 01:08:50,420 --> 01:08:50,920 I am not- 1142 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:51,620 Is that really like- 1143 01:08:51,620 --> 01:08:57,220 I am not pro women being taken advantage of or abused 1144 01:08:57,220 --> 01:09:01,820 or harmed, which tends to happen a lot in a pimp sex worker 1145 01:09:01,820 --> 01:09:02,820 situation. 1146 01:09:02,820 --> 01:09:03,320 Right. 1147 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:03,820 OK. 1148 01:09:03,820 --> 01:09:04,620 So that being said- 1149 01:09:04,620 --> 01:09:07,120 So Snoop Dogg offered 401k or benefits or- 1150 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,020 If he's offering a 401k or benefits, I'm about it. 1151 01:09:11,020 --> 01:09:14,820 I mean, with 20 workers, you could get a good group plan. 1152 01:09:14,820 --> 01:09:17,120 I know. 1153 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,420 I think they had up to 10 at one time. 1154 01:09:19,420 --> 01:09:20,420 OK. 1155 01:09:20,420 --> 01:09:24,720 They had their own tour bus and they had their own hotel rooms 1156 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,020 next to his suite. 1157 01:09:27,020 --> 01:09:31,420 And this is not like a street prostitute type situation. 1158 01:09:31,420 --> 01:09:34,420 This was like a high end type situation. 1159 01:09:34,420 --> 01:09:34,920 Oh, wait. 1160 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,220 Can I say one thing? 1161 01:09:36,220 --> 01:09:40,120 I do believe that the PC term is sex worker these days, 1162 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:40,820 not prostitute. 1163 01:09:40,820 --> 01:09:43,320 Oh, I got in trouble for this on another episode. 1164 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,320 You're right. 1165 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:49,320 We are all pro sex worker on this podcast, right? 1166 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:50,620 Like I'm- 1167 01:09:50,620 --> 01:09:54,420 Actually, yeah, I am pro sex worker. 1168 01:09:54,420 --> 01:09:54,920 High four? 1169 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,120 Or did you just high four me? 1170 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,620 I did high four you. 1171 01:09:59,620 --> 01:10:00,120 Anyway- 1172 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,120 It's a high 4.5. 1173 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,620 So Snoop-a-loop. 1174 01:10:02,620 --> 01:10:04,620 Snoop-a-loop. 1175 01:10:04,620 --> 01:10:05,820 No, Snoop Lion. 1176 01:10:05,820 --> 01:10:07,120 Snoop Lion's- 1177 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,120 Snoop Lion's- 1178 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,820 Snoop D-O-double G. 1179 01:10:09,820 --> 01:10:11,120 OK, I want to hear about him being- 1180 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,320 Mystery agent service. 1181 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,920 I would like to hear about him being 1182 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,220 a facilitator of sexual goods. 1183 01:10:17,220 --> 01:10:23,020 So what would happen is people, like famous athletes, 1184 01:10:23,020 --> 01:10:26,620 professional athletes and celebrities would come to his 1185 01:10:26,620 --> 01:10:30,520 shows and they'd come backstage and he'd be like, hey, 1186 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,320 why don't you come back to the hotel? 1187 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,020 I've got a girl for you. 1188 01:10:35,020 --> 01:10:38,720 And he said that he was bringing in more money 1189 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,420 through these women than he was through the concerts 1190 01:10:43,420 --> 01:10:44,620 that he was being paid to do. 1191 01:10:44,620 --> 01:10:47,520 But he didn't take any money from the women at all. 1192 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,620 He was just doing it for fun and he let them keep all the money. 1193 01:10:50,620 --> 01:10:51,820 Wow. 1194 01:10:51,820 --> 01:10:53,220 What did I just say? 1195 01:10:53,220 --> 01:10:54,120 Let's get pimped. 1196 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,820 That's what he told Rolling Stone Magazine. 1197 01:10:55,820 --> 01:10:59,520 If I was going to be a sex worker- 1198 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:00,520 I'd work for Snoop. 1199 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:01,920 I mean, honestly. 1200 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,320 I mean, OK. 1201 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,720 I mean, if I'm his wife and he's like, hey, look, I got these guys. 1202 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,520 I know they want to pay money and I know there's these women 1203 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,820 that I could hook them up, are you cool with me doing this? 1204 01:11:15,820 --> 01:11:18,320 If Marcus came to me and said that, I'd probably be like, 1205 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,420 I don't really feel comfortable with this. 1206 01:11:20,420 --> 01:11:22,520 But if I was cool, like his wife- 1207 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,420 Because I thought Jenny was about to be like, yeah, totally. 1208 01:11:24,420 --> 01:11:29,020 And I'm like, OK, I think I've just been given freedom 1209 01:11:29,020 --> 01:11:30,320 to do a new business venture. 1210 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,820 There comes my break room at the warehouse. 1211 01:11:32,820 --> 01:11:33,820 So much for that couch. 1212 01:11:33,820 --> 01:11:37,320 Actually, Steph, we've got something to ask you. 1213 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,220 We're adding a new role. 1214 01:11:39,220 --> 01:11:40,720 Be like a car wash. 1215 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,220 Be like a 10 minute turn. 1216 01:11:42,220 --> 01:11:44,220 Would you like to- 1217 01:11:44,220 --> 01:11:47,220 We're going to offer it to our current employee first. 1218 01:11:47,220 --> 01:11:50,820 Wait, so I'm head of HR and I'm a sex worker in the break room. 1219 01:11:50,820 --> 01:11:52,020 Is that what's happening now? 1220 01:11:52,020 --> 01:11:52,520 Yes. 1221 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,520 You want to shall we brew some coffee? 1222 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,120 Anyways. 1223 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,020 No. 1224 01:11:59,020 --> 01:12:01,920 I am so not even close to the end of this episode. 1225 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:02,420 Sorry, Marcus. 1226 01:12:02,420 --> 01:12:04,320 Before we started recording, Marcus was like, 1227 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,220 maybe you could do less research in the future. 1228 01:12:08,220 --> 01:12:11,420 And I'm starting to understand why he feels that way. 1229 01:12:11,420 --> 01:12:13,620 And I said I would try to stop talking. 1230 01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:14,420 What's our time? 1231 01:12:14,420 --> 01:12:15,620 Are we at three hours yet? 1232 01:12:15,620 --> 01:12:17,020 We are one hour and 20 minutes. 1233 01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:17,620 Oh, that's it? 1234 01:12:17,620 --> 01:12:18,220 Good. 1235 01:12:18,220 --> 01:12:18,720 OK. 1236 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,420 20 minutes time. 1237 01:12:20,420 --> 01:12:21,020 That's not bad. 1238 01:12:21,020 --> 01:12:23,120 So we've got 20 minutes to do the tasting. 1239 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,820 I'm just about done with Snoop Dogg. 1240 01:12:24,820 --> 01:12:28,220 So in addition to being a rapper and a pimp, 1241 01:12:28,220 --> 01:12:31,620 here are some of his other business ventures, 1242 01:12:31,620 --> 01:12:34,420 in addition to the coffee company also. 1243 01:12:34,420 --> 01:12:35,220 Acting. 1244 01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:36,020 Natch. 1245 01:12:36,020 --> 01:12:37,620 Lots of TVs, lots of movies. 1246 01:12:37,620 --> 01:12:39,320 His reality show with his family. 1247 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,320 Plus Martha Stewart potluck dinner party. 1248 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,020 He's done cameos everywhere. 1249 01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:47,820 Everybody's had a Snoop Dogg cameo. 1250 01:12:47,820 --> 01:12:49,420 Why hasn't he been here? 1251 01:12:49,420 --> 01:12:51,620 I mean, we've got an empty chair for him. 1252 01:12:51,620 --> 01:12:54,520 Snoop, come on for a follow up. 1253 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:55,620 He wrote a cookbook. 1254 01:12:55,620 --> 01:12:57,220 He produced a porn film. 1255 01:12:57,220 --> 01:12:58,320 I own the cookbook. 1256 01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:58,820 You do? 1257 01:12:58,820 --> 01:12:59,320 I do. 1258 01:12:59,320 --> 01:12:59,820 I bought it. 1259 01:12:59,820 --> 01:13:00,320 He does. 1260 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,120 I got it from Marcus for a gift. 1261 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:02,620 Oh my god. 1262 01:13:02,620 --> 01:13:04,620 We should cook a recipe for a love it or leave it. 1263 01:13:04,620 --> 01:13:05,920 That's a great idea. 1264 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,820 I'm really sad that I forgot. 1265 01:13:07,820 --> 01:13:10,120 I thought of it two weeks ago and then completely forgot 1266 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,120 to pick up a bottle of his wine for a love it or leave it 1267 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:13,620 episode. 1268 01:13:13,620 --> 01:13:14,420 Wow, shit. 1269 01:13:14,420 --> 01:13:18,520 He's always been a fan of professional wrestling. 1270 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,620 He's now heavily involved with the WWE, WrestleMania. 1271 01:13:22,620 --> 01:13:25,820 He was like a, what do you call it? 1272 01:13:25,820 --> 01:13:26,520 An announcer. 1273 01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:27,320 An announcer. 1274 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:27,820 Yeah. 1275 01:13:27,820 --> 01:13:28,320 Yeah. 1276 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,120 And then one time he was announcing 1277 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,220 and something went wrong and he had to just jump right 1278 01:13:33,220 --> 01:13:35,620 into the ring and beat a guy up and he did. 1279 01:13:35,620 --> 01:13:36,520 That's so cool. 1280 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,320 Isn't he amazing? 1281 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,820 We talked before the episode about how 1282 01:13:41,820 --> 01:13:44,320 he narrated some Planet Earth episodes, 1283 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,820 Plizanet Earth on the Jimmy Kimmel show. 1284 01:13:46,820 --> 01:13:48,980 And there was a change.org petition 1285 01:13:48,980 --> 01:13:52,220 to get him to narrate all of the Planet Earths from now on 1286 01:13:52,220 --> 01:13:54,920 because he's so awesome. 1287 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,220 He's super into NFTs. 1288 01:13:57,220 --> 01:13:57,820 Oh, OK. 1289 01:13:57,820 --> 01:13:59,820 Super into NFTs. 1290 01:13:59,820 --> 01:14:00,820 It's a crypto. 1291 01:14:00,820 --> 01:14:02,220 It's like a visual crypto. 1292 01:14:02,220 --> 01:14:03,220 Yeah. 1293 01:14:03,220 --> 01:14:07,020 Like where you would sell art online 1294 01:14:07,020 --> 01:14:08,820 and it was supposedly worth something. 1295 01:14:08,820 --> 01:14:09,320 Yeah. 1296 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:10,720 It doesn't make any sense to me. 1297 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,020 I know what it is, but it makes no sense to me. 1298 01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:16,320 He's got some kind of Call of Duty game appearance. 1299 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:17,720 I don't know anything about that. 1300 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,120 He's got an app. 1301 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:20,420 He's invested in Reddit. 1302 01:14:20,420 --> 01:14:22,320 He's got a weed delivery startup. 1303 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,120 He's got a digital media business, 1304 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,520 a brand of cannabis products, an e-sports league. 1305 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:32,220 And he's part owner of the Ottawa Senators hockey team. 1306 01:14:32,220 --> 01:14:33,520 That's super fucking random. 1307 01:14:36,220 --> 01:14:37,820 Canadian. 1308 01:14:37,820 --> 01:14:41,220 He also owns Death Row Records, like owns it outright. 1309 01:14:41,220 --> 01:14:42,520 You know what? 1310 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,820 We have had a lot of people on this podcast 1311 01:14:45,820 --> 01:14:48,920 that are like the type of guy who's like, I want it, 1312 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,420 and he goes out and gets it. 1313 01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:54,720 For example, La Colom guy. 1314 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,320 I think Snoop Dogg fucking takes it, 1315 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,760 takes like number one spot for like dude who wants it 1316 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:02,820 and does it. 1317 01:15:02,820 --> 01:15:06,020 And he does it in such like a laid back, mellow way. 1318 01:15:06,020 --> 01:15:08,320 But he's fucking goes, you know? 1319 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,720 I mean, you've got to think, his day, 1320 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,060 just checking up on all of those businesses 1321 01:15:13,060 --> 01:15:15,620 and keeping track and getting reports and shit, 1322 01:15:15,620 --> 01:15:18,020 he's going to spend at least 12 hours a day just 1323 01:15:18,020 --> 01:15:19,620 being a businessman. 1324 01:15:19,620 --> 01:15:21,960 He probably works like crazy. 1325 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,260 You would think he has a laid back lifestyle, 1326 01:15:24,260 --> 01:15:26,420 but like he's probably constantly working. 1327 01:15:26,420 --> 01:15:28,060 He probably doesn't even work, man. 1328 01:15:28,060 --> 01:15:30,220 He probably just gets the checks at the end of the day. 1329 01:15:30,220 --> 01:15:32,220 I think he's probably definitely an investor, 1330 01:15:32,220 --> 01:15:33,960 but I think like there's going to be reports 1331 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,220 that you have to go over and you have to be checking up on. 1332 01:15:36,220 --> 01:15:37,060 But he's not running the companies. 1333 01:15:37,060 --> 01:15:37,660 I know. 1334 01:15:37,660 --> 01:15:39,560 He's just getting the checks and the reports. 1335 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,060 You guys, he smokes 80 blunts a day. 1336 01:15:42,060 --> 01:15:43,060 Right. 1337 01:15:43,060 --> 01:15:44,460 How much work can he possibly do? 1338 01:15:44,460 --> 01:15:45,420 That's what I'm saying. 1339 01:15:45,420 --> 01:15:46,260 He just shows up. 1340 01:15:46,260 --> 01:15:48,260 80. 1341 01:15:48,260 --> 01:15:52,120 I heard that Snoop Dogg has a professional on staff blunt 1342 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:52,620 roller. 1343 01:15:52,620 --> 01:15:53,860 Yes, he does. 1344 01:15:53,860 --> 01:15:55,220 He's going to get lung cancer. 1345 01:15:55,220 --> 01:15:57,560 He's going to slow down on that. 1346 01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,260 Maybe he'll try some addables, mix things up. 1347 01:16:00,260 --> 01:16:02,560 He really needs to think about his lung health. 1348 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,620 A professional on staff roller of blunts. 1349 01:16:05,620 --> 01:16:08,820 Well, if I were Snoop Dogg and I smoked as much weed as he did, 1350 01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:10,960 I would have a professional rolling for me too. 1351 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:11,460 Of course. 1352 01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:12,560 I mean, of course. 1353 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,980 Look, he doesn't have a lot of time. 1354 01:16:14,980 --> 01:16:16,380 There's only 24 hours in the day. 1355 01:16:16,380 --> 01:16:19,620 I promise you, he might be an investor in all of these things, 1356 01:16:19,620 --> 01:16:21,480 but he's not a dumb ass. 1357 01:16:21,480 --> 01:16:25,180 So I'm pretty sure that he's definitely somehow invested 1358 01:16:25,180 --> 01:16:26,960 and definitely takes this shit seriously 1359 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,300 despite his public persona. 1360 01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:31,780 Because you don't get involved in this many businesses, 1361 01:16:31,780 --> 01:16:33,540 and you don't get involved in this much shit 1362 01:16:33,540 --> 01:16:34,940 by just being a slacker. 1363 01:16:34,940 --> 01:16:35,440 Yeah. 1364 01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:36,060 You know? 1365 01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:38,900 It's like, I think, yeah. 1366 01:16:38,900 --> 01:16:40,380 You don't do all this. 1367 01:16:40,380 --> 01:16:41,260 Yeah. 1368 01:16:41,260 --> 01:16:42,880 The last thing I have to say about him 1369 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,900 is just about his charitable works, 1370 01:16:45,900 --> 01:16:47,380 which he doesn't talk about. 1371 01:16:47,380 --> 01:16:47,900 He doesn't. 1372 01:16:47,900 --> 01:16:48,380 Oh, god. 1373 01:16:48,380 --> 01:16:49,380 He's super quiet about it. 1374 01:16:49,380 --> 01:16:49,940 You set me up. 1375 01:16:49,940 --> 01:16:51,340 I thought you were going to be like, 1376 01:16:51,340 --> 01:16:52,980 his charitable works, which he doesn't do. 1377 01:16:52,980 --> 01:16:53,740 He doesn't do that. 1378 01:16:53,740 --> 01:16:54,060 No. 1379 01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:55,220 He doesn't believe in charity. 1380 01:16:55,220 --> 01:16:57,300 Pull yourself up by your bootstraps. 1381 01:16:57,300 --> 01:17:03,100 He just like all those other guys that we've had on these 1382 01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:05,260 podcasts, the guys who do it all. 1383 01:17:07,940 --> 01:17:12,500 He feels like if he talks about his charitable donations, 1384 01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:14,100 then he's looking for attention. 1385 01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:15,620 So he doesn't like to talk about it. 1386 01:17:15,620 --> 01:17:18,020 He gives a bunch of money to children's hospitals. 1387 01:17:18,020 --> 01:17:19,360 That's like the number one thing. 1388 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,060 Well, that's the number two thing. 1389 01:17:21,060 --> 01:17:24,540 The number one thing is his youth football league. 1390 01:17:24,540 --> 01:17:28,700 He decided in 2005, as soon as he was done pimping, 1391 01:17:28,700 --> 01:17:32,340 he was like, I should do something for the kids now. 1392 01:17:32,340 --> 01:17:34,420 So he started a youth football league 1393 01:17:34,420 --> 01:17:37,540 for underprivileged youth in LA. 1394 01:17:37,540 --> 01:17:39,660 And at first, he just wanted to give money to it 1395 01:17:39,660 --> 01:17:42,180 and not participate because he didn't want to. 1396 01:17:42,180 --> 01:17:43,580 He feels like he's looking. 1397 01:17:43,580 --> 01:17:46,340 He doesn't want people to think he's looking for attention. 1398 01:17:46,340 --> 01:17:49,220 But when he showed up to the games and the practices 1399 01:17:49,220 --> 01:17:51,660 and the kids were so excited to meet him 1400 01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:53,420 and wanted photos with him and everything, 1401 01:17:53,420 --> 01:17:56,340 and he realized there was actually a benefit 1402 01:17:56,340 --> 01:17:59,580 to putting his face with this club. 1403 01:17:59,580 --> 01:18:01,180 This is so adorable. 1404 01:18:01,180 --> 01:18:05,780 This is now the largest youth football league in California. 1405 01:18:05,780 --> 01:18:08,700 And there's also a special needs division 1406 01:18:08,700 --> 01:18:12,860 for kids with physical, mental, and developmental disabilities. 1407 01:18:12,860 --> 01:18:16,060 50 teams, 1,500 players. 1408 01:18:16,060 --> 01:18:17,860 It's enormous. 1409 01:18:17,860 --> 01:18:18,860 That's crazy. 1410 01:18:18,860 --> 01:18:21,220 He's had something like 20 or 30 kids 1411 01:18:21,220 --> 01:18:26,100 go on to professional football players. 1412 01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:27,900 Yeah. 1413 01:18:27,900 --> 01:18:31,020 He also gives away 3,000 turkeys every Thanksgiving. 1414 01:18:31,020 --> 01:18:32,500 Aw. 1415 01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:32,980 I don't know. 1416 01:18:32,980 --> 01:18:34,220 I just thought that was cute. 1417 01:18:34,220 --> 01:18:35,340 That's so cute. 1418 01:18:35,340 --> 01:18:37,980 Through another charity, maybe he is? 1419 01:18:37,980 --> 01:18:40,140 Or he just out of the trunk of his car? 1420 01:18:40,140 --> 01:18:41,260 I'm not sure. 1421 01:18:41,260 --> 01:18:42,300 Crazy. 1422 01:18:42,300 --> 01:18:44,940 Did you enjoy getting a turkey from Montes Coffee? 1423 01:18:44,940 --> 01:18:46,300 Or was that weird? 1424 01:18:46,300 --> 01:18:48,820 Marcus and I wanted to bring back the holiday turkey 1425 01:18:48,820 --> 01:18:50,780 from the 50s. 1426 01:18:50,780 --> 01:18:52,340 You didn't actually buy a turkey. 1427 01:18:52,340 --> 01:18:53,700 I gave her a turkey one year. 1428 01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:56,060 And Theresa, they both got turkey. 1429 01:18:56,060 --> 01:18:57,620 Me and Theresa both got turkeys. 1430 01:18:57,620 --> 01:18:59,820 And me and Theresa both texted each other and were like, 1431 01:18:59,820 --> 01:19:03,900 what the fuck are we going to do with this turkey? 1432 01:19:03,900 --> 01:19:05,180 But we both cooked turkeys. 1433 01:19:05,180 --> 01:19:06,500 And they were delicious. 1434 01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:08,100 Would you like a turkey again? 1435 01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:08,600 No. 1436 01:19:11,340 --> 01:19:14,100 Yeah, that was the year we were like, let's get everyone a turkey. 1437 01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:16,300 I love it in theory. 1438 01:19:16,300 --> 01:19:17,540 I know it's a great idea. 1439 01:19:17,540 --> 01:19:19,980 But then I was like, what do you do with the turkey? 1440 01:19:19,980 --> 01:19:22,620 I was like, in fairness, I was like, whatever we spent. 1441 01:19:22,620 --> 01:19:24,780 I would just do that as a gift card. 1442 01:19:24,780 --> 01:19:26,780 I feel like that's way more useful. 1443 01:19:26,780 --> 01:19:27,580 Just give me $30. 1444 01:19:27,580 --> 01:19:29,780 Yeah, but there's something really fun about driving out 1445 01:19:29,780 --> 01:19:32,620 to the turkey farm and buying a turkey and then giving it away. 1446 01:19:32,620 --> 01:19:33,860 So who is this for? 1447 01:19:33,860 --> 01:19:36,500 Is it for the person giving or is it for the person receiving? 1448 01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:37,660 It's for me. 1449 01:19:37,660 --> 01:19:38,380 It's for me. 1450 01:19:38,380 --> 01:19:40,180 So I can drive to the turkey farm. 1451 01:19:40,180 --> 01:19:42,700 This is not for you, Steph. 1452 01:19:42,700 --> 01:19:45,980 Enjoy my turkey. 1453 01:19:45,980 --> 01:19:48,180 You could just go buy yourself a turkey. 1454 01:19:48,180 --> 01:19:50,100 I think we did buy ourselves a turkey too. 1455 01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:51,100 Right. 1456 01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:53,300 But that box, it's so vintage. 1457 01:19:53,300 --> 01:19:54,420 It felt so 50s. 1458 01:19:54,420 --> 01:19:55,020 You had a hoca. 1459 01:19:55,020 --> 01:19:56,540 Everything about it was 1950s. 1460 01:19:56,540 --> 01:19:57,780 A hoca, fucking real turkey man. 1461 01:19:57,780 --> 01:20:00,020 I feel like we might still have that box in our basement 1462 01:20:00,020 --> 01:20:01,740 somewhere holding some important papers. 1463 01:20:01,740 --> 01:20:03,940 Can I tell you, my mom? 1464 01:20:03,940 --> 01:20:06,220 My mom said my grandma worked at a bank, 1465 01:20:06,220 --> 01:20:09,060 and they gave out hoca turkeys back when my grandma worked 1466 01:20:09,060 --> 01:20:10,060 there. 1467 01:20:10,060 --> 01:20:14,100 So this tradition, it started, and it's not stopping. 1468 01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:15,380 I've only done it once. 1469 01:20:15,380 --> 01:20:16,060 Yeah. 1470 01:20:16,060 --> 01:20:16,780 Last year, right? 1471 01:20:16,780 --> 01:20:18,260 No, this was like two years ago. 1472 01:20:18,260 --> 01:20:18,900 We didn't do it last year. 1473 01:20:18,900 --> 01:20:20,420 What about a honey-baked ham that I just 1474 01:20:20,420 --> 01:20:22,700 have to heat up for 15 minutes and don't actually 1475 01:20:22,700 --> 01:20:24,020 have to cook for four hours? 1476 01:20:24,020 --> 01:20:25,540 I'll push for a gift card. 1477 01:20:25,540 --> 01:20:27,300 I think I'll push for a gift card this year. 1478 01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:28,740 What about just a bottle of whiskey? 1479 01:20:28,740 --> 01:20:29,620 A bottle of whiskey. 1480 01:20:29,620 --> 01:20:30,860 A bottle. 1481 01:20:30,860 --> 01:20:32,660 No, it has to be fucking wholesome. 1482 01:20:32,660 --> 01:20:33,180 I'm sorry. 1483 01:20:33,180 --> 01:20:34,540 What if you put a bottle of whiskey 1484 01:20:34,540 --> 01:20:37,620 inside a hoca turkey box? 1485 01:20:37,620 --> 01:20:40,660 I thought you were going to say inside a hoca turkey. 1486 01:20:40,660 --> 01:20:42,300 How about putting it inside a turkey? 1487 01:20:42,300 --> 01:20:48,900 Churwiskin or whatever. 1488 01:20:48,900 --> 01:20:51,100 All right, Marcus, I don't know what our time is, 1489 01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:54,300 but I only want to talk about the actual coffee company 1490 01:20:54,300 --> 01:20:56,300 for five minutes, because Snoop is obviously 1491 01:20:56,300 --> 01:20:57,700 not roasting fucking coffee. 1492 01:20:57,700 --> 01:20:59,060 I'd like to see him try. 1493 01:20:59,060 --> 01:21:00,660 So tell me about this coffee company. 1494 01:21:00,660 --> 01:21:03,460 So when you look at the website for this Indo coffee, 1495 01:21:03,460 --> 01:21:08,180 it looks very like Sexy Lifestyle brand. 1496 01:21:08,180 --> 01:21:11,100 There's lots of girls in bikinis with the Indo 1497 01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:13,380 written across their chest and stuff like that. 1498 01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:14,060 Cool. 1499 01:21:14,060 --> 01:21:17,900 Fuel the Dream is the tagline for Indo coffee. 1500 01:21:17,900 --> 01:21:20,700 I expected more from you, Snoop Dogg. 1501 01:21:20,700 --> 01:21:24,260 But they do mention that the roaster is a guy named 1502 01:21:24,260 --> 01:21:28,060 Michael Riadi, who's an Indonesian coffee entrepreneur. 1503 01:21:28,060 --> 01:21:33,180 So I looked up his deal, thinking maybe I'd 1504 01:21:33,180 --> 01:21:36,100 find a really legit coffee roaster. 1505 01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:37,020 They're on a yacht. 1506 01:21:37,020 --> 01:21:38,220 I'm on his website right now. 1507 01:21:38,220 --> 01:21:40,180 Yeah, of course they're on a yacht. 1508 01:21:40,180 --> 01:21:44,940 Yeah, with a DJ, lots of bikinis and dancing, mostly women. 1509 01:21:44,940 --> 01:21:47,380 I didn't know women were into coffee. 1510 01:21:47,380 --> 01:21:49,620 Actually, all women on this boat. 1511 01:21:49,620 --> 01:21:52,700 So they know the power of ownership, 1512 01:21:52,700 --> 01:21:54,340 according to the website. 1513 01:21:54,340 --> 01:21:58,540 All right, so I look up this Michael Riadi guy. 1514 01:21:58,540 --> 01:22:02,940 He has another coffee company that's called Tenterra Coffee. 1515 01:22:02,940 --> 01:22:06,060 This is a surf and coffee roasting company, 1516 01:22:06,060 --> 01:22:09,900 because apparently Michael Riadi is super into surfing. 1517 01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:12,860 1% of the proceeds from this company 1518 01:22:12,860 --> 01:22:16,980 go to buy surfboards for underprivileged kids, 1519 01:22:16,980 --> 01:22:20,460 which is nice, I guess. 1520 01:22:20,460 --> 01:22:23,540 Yeah, I'm sure they still haven't made enough money 1521 01:22:23,540 --> 01:22:26,900 to fucking give one surfboard. 1522 01:22:26,900 --> 01:22:29,260 Who is the underprivileged kid who's like, 1523 01:22:29,260 --> 01:22:31,380 I don't care about having food or shoes 1524 01:22:31,380 --> 01:22:33,260 if only I had a surfboard? 1525 01:22:33,260 --> 01:22:34,500 I mean, maybe. 1526 01:22:34,500 --> 01:22:35,340 It's LA. 1527 01:22:35,340 --> 01:22:36,180 I don't know. 1528 01:22:36,180 --> 01:22:36,740 It's LA. 1529 01:22:36,740 --> 01:22:37,820 You know what? 1530 01:22:37,820 --> 01:22:40,100 We do not live in California. 1531 01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:43,260 Thank God Michael Riadi is there for those kids. 1532 01:22:43,260 --> 01:22:45,580 Maybe he was a poor kid who wanted a surfboard. 1533 01:22:45,580 --> 01:22:46,300 Yeah. 1534 01:22:46,300 --> 01:22:47,660 Maybe he was a poor kid. 1535 01:22:47,660 --> 01:22:48,180 There it is. 1536 01:22:48,180 --> 01:22:49,340 Stick with me. 1537 01:22:49,340 --> 01:22:53,180 So he talks about he was born in Jakarta. 1538 01:22:53,180 --> 01:22:58,580 He spends his time between LA and Bali, Indonesia. 1539 01:22:58,580 --> 01:23:00,900 He comes from a family of entrepreneurs, 1540 01:23:00,900 --> 01:23:03,220 and they have worked so hard for what they have. 1541 01:23:03,220 --> 01:23:06,500 And his family constantly talks about business, apparently. 1542 01:23:06,500 --> 01:23:08,460 When he was a little kid at the dinner table, 1543 01:23:08,460 --> 01:23:10,500 they were just constantly talking about business. 1544 01:23:10,500 --> 01:23:14,020 He learned everything from his family, his grandpa especially. 1545 01:23:14,020 --> 01:23:17,180 He was 22 years old, started up a little bike shop. 1546 01:23:17,180 --> 01:23:21,180 That's how Michael Riadi learned about business. 1547 01:23:21,180 --> 01:23:22,780 He went to college. 1548 01:23:22,780 --> 01:23:25,300 He was in real estate for 13 years. 1549 01:23:25,300 --> 01:23:28,660 And then in 2017, he got into the coffee business. 1550 01:23:28,660 --> 01:23:29,140 Sure. 1551 01:23:29,140 --> 01:23:32,620 He believes in starting small and thinking big. 1552 01:23:32,620 --> 01:23:35,220 And all of his coffee is direct trade. 1553 01:23:35,220 --> 01:23:38,700 He himself handpicks each coffee that he 1554 01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:41,220 sells on the Tentera website. 1555 01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:41,740 Cool. 1556 01:23:41,740 --> 01:23:43,740 And he's just getting it all from Indonesia. 1557 01:23:43,740 --> 01:23:45,380 And he's getting it all from Indonesia. 1558 01:23:45,380 --> 01:23:46,260 He's Indonesian. 1559 01:23:46,260 --> 01:23:47,500 He's getting it from Indonesia. 1560 01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:52,420 This is his like, someday when we run out of coffees, 1561 01:23:52,420 --> 01:23:55,660 we got to go back and try one of these coffees from his website, 1562 01:23:55,660 --> 01:23:56,580 I feel like. 1563 01:23:56,580 --> 01:23:58,060 But he works hard. 1564 01:23:58,060 --> 01:23:59,460 He works 18 hours a day. 1565 01:23:59,460 --> 01:24:02,060 He's just really a dedicated person. 1566 01:24:02,060 --> 01:24:06,900 So his grandpa's name is Maktar Riadi. 1567 01:24:06,900 --> 01:24:08,380 He started with a bike shop. 1568 01:24:08,380 --> 01:24:09,900 And then he went into banking. 1569 01:24:09,900 --> 01:24:12,100 And then he opened the Lipo Group. 1570 01:24:12,100 --> 01:24:12,980 Damn. 1571 01:24:12,980 --> 01:24:15,180 They do property management and development. 1572 01:24:15,180 --> 01:24:18,780 They're the largest real estate developer in Indonesia. 1573 01:24:18,780 --> 01:24:20,260 Wow. 1574 01:24:20,260 --> 01:24:23,220 Their investments include retail, media, real estate, 1575 01:24:23,220 --> 01:24:26,340 banking, natural resources, hospitality, and health care. 1576 01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:30,260 His personal net worth is $1.5 billion. 1577 01:24:30,260 --> 01:24:33,660 I would have to guess if I had to guess that his grandpa maybe 1578 01:24:33,660 --> 01:24:35,980 helped him get his coffee business started. 1579 01:24:35,980 --> 01:24:38,580 How dare you? 1580 01:24:38,580 --> 01:24:43,540 I mean, I mean, I don't think he was poor with surfboards either. 1581 01:24:43,540 --> 01:24:44,980 That's what pissed me off. 1582 01:24:44,980 --> 01:24:45,460 Yeah. 1583 01:24:45,460 --> 01:24:48,580 So then I was like 1% for surfboards. 1584 01:24:48,580 --> 01:24:51,700 $0.15 for every bag of coffee. 1585 01:24:51,700 --> 01:24:52,260 OK. 1586 01:24:52,260 --> 01:24:53,540 Goes towards? 1587 01:24:53,540 --> 01:24:54,660 Goes towards surfboards. 1588 01:24:54,660 --> 01:24:55,580 Surfboards. 1589 01:24:55,580 --> 01:24:56,380 Cool. 1590 01:24:56,380 --> 01:24:57,700 Shall we smoke a blunt? 1591 01:24:57,700 --> 01:25:00,620 Yeah. 1592 01:25:00,620 --> 01:25:03,020 Let's do this. 1593 01:25:03,020 --> 01:25:07,340 Modest Coffee roasts the highest quality single origin coffees 1594 01:25:07,340 --> 01:25:08,820 without the snobbery. 1595 01:25:08,820 --> 01:25:11,660 They take the guesswork out of buying specialty coffee 1596 01:25:11,660 --> 01:25:14,460 by carefully curating green coffees 1597 01:25:14,460 --> 01:25:18,140 and sorting them to one of their tiers based on cupping score, 1598 01:25:18,140 --> 01:25:21,060 price, flavor notes, and roast level. 1599 01:25:21,060 --> 01:25:27,620 Go to www.modest.coffee forward slash no bad reviews 1600 01:25:27,620 --> 01:25:29,660 to see what they're roasting today. 1601 01:25:29,660 --> 01:25:30,540 Pip pip cheerio. 1602 01:25:33,540 --> 01:25:35,940 And we're back. 1603 01:25:35,940 --> 01:25:37,180 Brewing some Indo coffee. 1604 01:25:37,180 --> 01:25:40,100 Brewing and it smells pretty good. 1605 01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:43,540 I mean, it is a dark roast and it does smell roasty. 1606 01:25:43,540 --> 01:25:44,300 Yeah. 1607 01:25:44,300 --> 01:25:45,620 But it smells good. 1608 01:25:45,620 --> 01:25:46,420 Yeah. 1609 01:25:46,420 --> 01:25:48,860 You know, I had a feeling this might be up your alley. 1610 01:25:48,860 --> 01:25:49,700 Right. 1611 01:25:49,700 --> 01:25:51,580 I did. 1612 01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:52,060 Hmm. 1613 01:25:54,740 --> 01:25:57,300 The beans smell pretty good in the bag. 1614 01:25:57,300 --> 01:26:00,820 It's got a good dark, dark roast on them. 1615 01:26:00,820 --> 01:26:03,380 Yeah, they're not like black, right? 1616 01:26:03,380 --> 01:26:08,420 They're not like, they're like a, they're very dark brown 1617 01:26:08,420 --> 01:26:10,260 and they're a little oily, but they're not 1618 01:26:10,260 --> 01:26:13,220 like black and super oily. 1619 01:26:13,220 --> 01:26:14,460 Yeah. 1620 01:26:14,460 --> 01:26:15,580 I think it smells good. 1621 01:26:15,580 --> 01:26:16,540 Nice. 1622 01:26:16,540 --> 01:26:17,660 I'm optimistic. 1623 01:26:17,660 --> 01:26:18,580 OK. 1624 01:26:18,580 --> 01:26:21,060 Yeah. 1625 01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:22,940 You know, I'm the other end of the spectrum. 1626 01:26:22,940 --> 01:26:23,460 Right. 1627 01:26:23,460 --> 01:26:26,900 You know, I'm like, I'm lighter. 1628 01:26:26,900 --> 01:26:28,900 I generally like the lighter roasts. 1629 01:26:28,900 --> 01:26:32,660 And this smells a little darker than I would normally go for. 1630 01:26:32,660 --> 01:26:34,500 Right. 1631 01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:37,580 But it does smell like pretty good coffee. 1632 01:26:37,580 --> 01:26:38,700 It doesn't smell bad. 1633 01:26:38,700 --> 01:26:40,700 Yeah. 1634 01:26:40,700 --> 01:26:41,180 Yeah. 1635 01:26:41,180 --> 01:26:43,580 I mean, I always like the way that roasted coffee smells. 1636 01:26:43,580 --> 01:26:44,540 It's got a great flavor. 1637 01:26:44,540 --> 01:26:45,180 Yeah. 1638 01:26:45,180 --> 01:26:46,620 Great aroma. 1639 01:26:46,620 --> 01:26:46,980 What? 1640 01:26:46,980 --> 01:26:47,940 Roasted coffee? 1641 01:26:47,940 --> 01:26:50,020 Yeah. 1642 01:26:50,020 --> 01:26:52,660 Is this a, this looks like an eco-friendly bag. 1643 01:26:52,660 --> 01:26:54,780 It sounds like an eco-friendly bag. 1644 01:26:54,780 --> 01:26:56,620 It's kind of really noisy. 1645 01:26:56,620 --> 01:27:03,420 And you said this is, whatchamacallit, Robusta? 1646 01:27:03,420 --> 01:27:04,260 No, no, no, no, no. 1647 01:27:04,260 --> 01:27:04,780 Oh, it's not? 1648 01:27:04,780 --> 01:27:06,980 You're confusing this with the last time. 1649 01:27:06,980 --> 01:27:07,500 Yeah. 1650 01:27:07,500 --> 01:27:08,020 No. 1651 01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:12,020 This is an Arabica. 1652 01:27:12,020 --> 01:27:14,900 It's a Sumatra, right? 1653 01:27:14,900 --> 01:27:16,380 Yeah. 1654 01:27:16,380 --> 01:27:19,540 Indo XYZ. 1655 01:27:19,540 --> 01:27:21,900 Yeah, I don't know what that means. 1656 01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:24,180 Yeah, I'm trying to understand. 1657 01:27:24,180 --> 01:27:27,020 Indo Xyz. 1658 01:27:27,020 --> 01:27:27,660 Is that a thing? 1659 01:27:27,660 --> 01:27:31,700 Indo Xyz is an Indonesian specialty coffee 1660 01:27:31,700 --> 01:27:35,340 created with the sole purpose of fueling the ambitious, 1661 01:27:35,340 --> 01:27:37,900 the tireless, although I would say it's maybe 1662 01:27:37,900 --> 01:27:42,100 for the people who are tired, the risk takers, the builders, 1663 01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:43,940 and the innovators. 1664 01:27:43,940 --> 01:27:44,460 Really? 1665 01:27:44,460 --> 01:27:46,700 It doesn't say all that. 1666 01:27:46,700 --> 01:27:48,500 Yeah, I mean, it's only for those people. 1667 01:27:48,500 --> 01:27:49,700 Oh, yeah, Biotree. 1668 01:27:49,700 --> 01:27:51,660 They're getting these bags from Pacific Bag. 1669 01:27:51,660 --> 01:27:52,940 OK, cool. 1670 01:27:52,940 --> 01:27:53,700 Nice bags. 1671 01:27:53,700 --> 01:27:56,980 We have shopped with this company that makes these bags. 1672 01:27:56,980 --> 01:27:57,500 Amazing. 1673 01:27:57,500 --> 01:27:58,380 Us and Snoop Dogg. 1674 01:27:58,380 --> 01:27:58,880 Yeah. 1675 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,860 Isn't that crazy? 1676 01:28:02,860 --> 01:28:04,300 That's awesome. 1677 01:28:04,300 --> 01:28:07,620 So this coffee, according to the website, 1678 01:28:07,620 --> 01:28:11,300 the process is called wet hulling. 1679 01:28:11,300 --> 01:28:11,820 OK. 1680 01:28:11,820 --> 01:28:12,500 What is that? 1681 01:28:12,500 --> 01:28:14,140 Describe that. 1682 01:28:14,140 --> 01:28:17,380 I think that's just another name for washed coffee, right? 1683 01:28:17,380 --> 01:28:19,380 OK. 1684 01:28:19,380 --> 01:28:22,020 Where they break the, it's a wet, it's a water process 1685 01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:26,540 where they break the exterior of the bean, like the fruit, off. 1686 01:28:26,540 --> 01:28:28,180 And then they're left with the beans. 1687 01:28:28,180 --> 01:28:29,540 It's not really anything special. 1688 01:28:29,540 --> 01:28:30,340 It's pretty common. 1689 01:28:30,340 --> 01:28:33,860 I just hadn't heard that term before, wet hulling. 1690 01:28:33,860 --> 01:28:34,740 OK. 1691 01:28:34,740 --> 01:28:38,780 Yeah, it's just another name for mechanical separating. 1692 01:28:38,780 --> 01:28:42,340 Sometimes you'll hear it called mechanical separation of coffee. 1693 01:28:42,340 --> 01:28:46,300 They probably got a Panagos wet huller. 1694 01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:47,540 Oh, you know what? 1695 01:28:47,540 --> 01:28:56,500 I snapped a screenshot of this guy's coffee company page. 1696 01:28:56,500 --> 01:28:59,820 This is the Tenterra company, his other company, 1697 01:28:59,820 --> 01:29:03,500 because there's a bunch of guys standing in front of a roaster, 1698 01:29:03,500 --> 01:29:06,420 and it looks pretty small. 1699 01:29:09,620 --> 01:29:10,980 Yeah, I want to see too. 1700 01:29:10,980 --> 01:29:13,900 I'm going to guess that it's probably still a small company. 1701 01:29:13,900 --> 01:29:14,500 Oh, yeah. 1702 01:29:14,500 --> 01:29:15,460 You can make it. 1703 01:29:15,460 --> 01:29:18,500 They've got five dudes standing around. 1704 01:29:18,500 --> 01:29:20,740 Five dudes roasting on a 40 pound roaster. 1705 01:29:20,740 --> 01:29:24,020 It appears to be a 15 kilo would be my guess. 1706 01:29:24,020 --> 01:29:24,900 Let me see. 1707 01:29:24,900 --> 01:29:26,500 Yeah. 1708 01:29:26,500 --> 01:29:28,340 All right, Steph, I just broke your phone. 1709 01:29:28,340 --> 01:29:29,500 Can you be careful with my phone? 1710 01:29:29,500 --> 01:29:30,380 Sorry. 1711 01:29:30,380 --> 01:29:32,580 Do you think that's even a 15? 1712 01:29:32,580 --> 01:29:34,300 It does look tiny. 1713 01:29:34,300 --> 01:29:36,540 15 pound, maybe? 1714 01:29:36,540 --> 01:29:38,700 Looks like a tiny little roaster. 1715 01:29:38,700 --> 01:29:39,980 Isn't that funny? 1716 01:29:39,980 --> 01:29:41,580 You said these are on their website? 1717 01:29:41,580 --> 01:29:43,900 Yeah, this is the Tenterra website. 1718 01:29:43,900 --> 01:29:45,900 Maybe this was back in the day. 1719 01:29:45,900 --> 01:29:48,340 These are old photos. 1720 01:29:48,340 --> 01:29:50,740 Company started in 2019, right? 1721 01:29:50,740 --> 01:29:53,740 Yeah, 18 or 19, yeah. 1722 01:29:53,740 --> 01:29:55,700 Old photos. 1723 01:29:55,700 --> 01:29:56,980 I'm trying to understand. 1724 01:29:56,980 --> 01:29:59,820 Yeah, that's a super tiny roaster. 1725 01:29:59,820 --> 01:30:02,700 Why, how do they employ five people on their tiny ass 1726 01:30:02,700 --> 01:30:03,220 roaster? 1727 01:30:03,220 --> 01:30:04,460 That's what I was looking at, right. 1728 01:30:04,460 --> 01:30:05,620 Maybe they're just buddies. 1729 01:30:07,900 --> 01:30:09,940 I just looked up Snoop Dogg's net worth, finally. 1730 01:30:09,940 --> 01:30:11,220 Does anybody want to guess? 1731 01:30:11,220 --> 01:30:12,500 1.2 billion. 1732 01:30:12,500 --> 01:30:14,340 400 million. 1733 01:30:14,340 --> 01:30:16,580 You guys are both way over the top. 1734 01:30:16,580 --> 01:30:17,540 Oh, really? 1735 01:30:17,540 --> 01:30:18,660 He's not way richer? 1736 01:30:18,660 --> 01:30:19,580 No. 1737 01:30:19,580 --> 01:30:21,820 10 million. 1738 01:30:21,820 --> 01:30:22,940 Well, he's richer than that. 1739 01:30:22,940 --> 01:30:24,620 I think he's pulling a sugar night. 1740 01:30:27,940 --> 01:30:31,820 150 million is his net worth, which is very respectable. 1741 01:30:31,820 --> 01:30:33,300 Very respectable. 1742 01:30:33,300 --> 01:30:34,780 Very. 1743 01:30:34,780 --> 01:30:36,580 OK, 10 teracoffee. 1744 01:30:36,580 --> 01:30:37,220 Let's see. 1745 01:30:37,220 --> 01:30:38,820 Do you want to guess Snoop Dogg's IQ? 1746 01:30:38,820 --> 01:30:40,460 I don't know why that comes up on Google. 1747 01:30:40,460 --> 01:30:41,540 That's pretty funny. 1748 01:30:41,540 --> 01:30:42,700 110. 1749 01:30:42,700 --> 01:30:45,860 I'm giving him genius status, 124. 1750 01:30:45,860 --> 01:30:48,380 You guys are both low on this one. 1751 01:30:48,380 --> 01:30:53,220 It's allegedly 147, according to someone on Twitter. 1752 01:30:53,220 --> 01:30:56,460 That's higher than Albert Einstein. 1753 01:30:56,460 --> 01:30:58,940 Really? 1754 01:30:58,940 --> 01:31:00,900 Just so you know. 1755 01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:02,540 Imagine how brilliant he would be 1756 01:31:02,540 --> 01:31:04,180 if he wasn't stoned all the time. 1757 01:31:04,180 --> 01:31:05,780 He'd be doing the quantum. 1758 01:31:05,780 --> 01:31:06,500 Particle physics. 1759 01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:07,000 Yes. 1760 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:12,240 10 teracoffee has no pictures of themselves. 1761 01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:13,560 It's all marketing. 1762 01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:14,960 OK, and titties? 1763 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,160 You got titties? 1764 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,560 Or is that they just saved that for Indo? 1765 01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,920 I mean, there are some kind of sexy surfer type women. 1766 01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,160 Those are athletes. 1767 01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:27,760 No, no, they're not actually surfing. 1768 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,200 They're just like the type of women I would imagine hanging 1769 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:30,760 out with surfers. 1770 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:32,880 I'm sure Snoop was responsible for all those ladies. 1771 01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,960 But this was a long time ago, 182 weeks ago. 1772 01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,280 So they have seemed to have remodeled their image. 1773 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:42,080 Should we do the olfactory reveal? 1774 01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:43,320 Oh, we kind of did a little bit. 1775 01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:43,820 We did. 1776 01:31:43,820 --> 01:31:44,680 Now we can do the actual. 1777 01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,880 Maybe he just has a babe for a girlfriend, 1778 01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:51,440 because maybe it's just a bunch of pictures of her and her 1779 01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:53,200 on 10 Tara's website. 1780 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,600 If his family is worth $150 billion or whatever, 1781 01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,040 then I would hope that he did have a hot girlfriend. 1782 01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:00,880 It's only $1.5 billion. 1783 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,400 Maybe it's one of Snoop's ladies. 1784 01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,080 Old favors. 1785 01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:09,040 I would love to be married to someone worth $1.5 billion. 1786 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,200 That makes me feel great. 1787 01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,680 I'm just messing with you. 1788 01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:13,840 She would hate it. 1789 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,280 I'm perfectly fine being married to someone worth $1.5 1790 01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,000 thousands. 1791 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,160 I would love to be divorced from somebody 1792 01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,720 who is worth $1.5 billion. 1793 01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:24,800 That'd be nice. 1794 01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,360 Little alimony? 1795 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,840 Yeah. 1796 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:30,120 Oh, yeah, you're right. 1797 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:30,620 Mm-hmm. 1798 01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:34,880 It's not bad. 1799 01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,440 I predict that it's going to require Uncle Nearest Whiskey. 1800 01:32:38,440 --> 01:32:40,920 You know, it's not bad. 1801 01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:41,600 It's not bad? 1802 01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:43,720 It's not bad. 1803 01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:47,120 Is it the schiznit, or is it just the schiznit? 1804 01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,040 It's got a robust roast on this guy. 1805 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:53,680 Yeah. 1806 01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:54,180 Yeah. 1807 01:32:54,180 --> 01:32:55,520 Definitely has dark rose vibes. 1808 01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:56,020 Yeah. 1809 01:32:56,020 --> 01:32:59,040 Do you know Sumatran coffees have a very unique flavor? 1810 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,480 Typically, they're really heavy on tobacco and vanilla. 1811 01:33:02,480 --> 01:33:06,680 And I find that this does not shy away from that. 1812 01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:07,200 OK, good. 1813 01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,000 Sumatran coffees are typically what 1814 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:14,240 are used as an ingredient or a base for espresso coffee. 1815 01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,600 That's a pretty common base for an espresso blend. 1816 01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:17,200 Add in, yeah. 1817 01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:21,960 It usually doesn't take a lot, like 10%, 20% of an espresso 1818 01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,880 blend. 1819 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:30,080 Because this little tobacco-y funk goes a long way. 1820 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:30,840 Not a bad way. 1821 01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:31,360 Uh-huh. 1822 01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:32,240 But it is. 1823 01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:35,440 One of my favorite genres. 1824 01:33:35,440 --> 01:33:38,840 It's a little dark for my general preferences. 1825 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:40,280 So I'm going to get some milk. 1826 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:41,640 Yeah, I think I'll join you in. 1827 01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:42,400 But it's not bad. 1828 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:43,040 It's not bad. 1829 01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,000 It's just, I feel like, yeah, like we're talking 1830 01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:46,280 about espressos or whatever. 1831 01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:46,780 Yeah. 1832 01:33:46,780 --> 01:33:49,320 Like a latte, cappuccino, this would be really tasty with. 1833 01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:50,400 You know what this is? 1834 01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:51,440 Traditional. 1835 01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:51,940 Mm-hmm. 1836 01:33:51,940 --> 01:33:52,440 Yeah. 1837 01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,800 We like to taste the coffee black. 1838 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,160 If we're not ready to give it a no bad review, 1839 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:04,000 then we might add some cream, some sugar, some whiskey, 1840 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,560 some whipped cream, whatever it takes 1841 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,960 to get to the point where we can give it a no bad review. 1842 01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,840 So that's our grating system, which is great. 1843 01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:14,280 You know, we've got a process. 1844 01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,000 Right now, kind of working our way through it. 1845 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:17,800 Right now, working our way through this process. 1846 01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:18,300 Yes. 1847 01:34:18,300 --> 01:34:19,840 You know, getting a little milk. 1848 01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,820 Ooh, heavy whipping cream. 1849 01:34:21,820 --> 01:34:23,360 You've got heavy whipping cream. 1850 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:24,360 Only for you. 1851 01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:25,880 Thank you. 1852 01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,040 So I added some milk, cream, whatever. 1853 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,440 Milk with 1% cream. 1854 01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:32,960 Mostly water. 1855 01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,320 That's true. 1856 01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,440 Did you know that whole milk is only 3%? 1857 01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:42,680 So this is like the difference between 1% and whole milk 1858 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,120 is like hardly anything. 1859 01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,920 Or it's 200%, depending on how you look at it. 1860 01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:52,000 I mean, if we're going on a scale of 100% no. 1861 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,240 If you're 100% is what you've got in your hand right now. 1862 01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:55,880 I love it. 1863 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:59,480 Versus 1% to 3%? 1864 01:34:59,480 --> 01:35:00,160 Come on. 1865 01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:04,960 We're talking a 2% difference between whole milk and 1%. 1866 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,600 We are talking a 99% difference, though, between. 1867 01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:11,880 The milk that I added to it, you know, 1868 01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,080 needs a little extra help. 1869 01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,040 I feel like it could use a little sugar. 1870 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,560 It's just like a little robust for me. 1871 01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:19,720 Yeah. 1872 01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,640 It's like throwing an ice cube at a house fire. 1873 01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:24,800 You know? 1874 01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:26,760 It's really not going to do much to it. 1875 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:28,080 That house is burning. 1876 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:33,520 I feel like if I had, you know what I would really like is like, 1877 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,760 I feel like I would like some whipped cream. 1878 01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,000 You have whipped cream, too? 1879 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:38,520 Holy cow. 1880 01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,160 You've got all the big guns today. 1881 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,880 I'm just going to have, I'm going to start out with sugar. 1882 01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:44,920 I tried it black. 1883 01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,440 I didn't love it. 1884 01:35:48,440 --> 01:35:52,520 As someone who enjoys a darker roast, it was too dark for me. 1885 01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:57,760 So I added some heavy whipping cream, and this is not bad. 1886 01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:58,280 OK. 1887 01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,880 I think it is like a good base for a cappuccino or something, 1888 01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,120 but not something you want to drink on your own. 1889 01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,760 It's some whipping cream, because the milk itself, you know, 1890 01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:07,600 just wasn't enough. 1891 01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,960 Didn't stand up enough. 1892 01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:11,680 I do have vanilla. 1893 01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,320 You know, I'm good here. 1894 01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,680 I kind of want to go back to the gin and juice 1895 01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,720 that I was having earlier today, though. 1896 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:19,600 You know? 1897 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,160 Does he have his own gin line? 1898 01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:23,240 Not that I'm aware of. 1899 01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:24,280 I didn't come across that. 1900 01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:25,720 Shockingly. 1901 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,120 How is that not like the first thing he started? 1902 01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:29,240 It's crazy. 1903 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,760 There should be a juice line and a gizz line. 1904 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,760 And a gizz line? 1905 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:35,280 All right. 1906 01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:39,720 This just took a turn that we never take on this podcast. 1907 01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,480 Snoop Dogg and Uncle Nearest Whiskey together, 1908 01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:44,440 is that a thing that we're trying? 1909 01:36:44,440 --> 01:36:45,520 Yes, we could try it. 1910 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,040 Sure. 1911 01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,320 I think that's an appropriate combo. 1912 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:50,680 I know he's into cognac. 1913 01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:52,440 I don't know if he's into whiskey. 1914 01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:54,240 I feel like he'd be OK with it. 1915 01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,120 I think because it's Uncle Nearest, yes. 1916 01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:56,760 Yes. 1917 01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,920 I think that's why he'd be OK with it. 1918 01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:02,560 But maybe he's into Jack Daniels or whatever, too. 1919 01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,440 I don't know. 1920 01:37:05,440 --> 01:37:06,880 Oh, thank you. 1921 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:10,960 A lot of cream and a healthy shot of Uncle Nearest. 1922 01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:12,160 Mm. 1923 01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:12,680 Is that good? 1924 01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:13,240 So good. 1925 01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:14,320 It is a lot of whiskey. 1926 01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:15,720 Thank you. 1927 01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,720 I feel like Marcus always puts a lot in. 1928 01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:18,520 I do, too, though. 1929 01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,840 I think he was just matching what I normally do. 1930 01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:24,440 Yeah, so who is this coffee for, guys? 1931 01:37:24,440 --> 01:37:26,760 This coffee is, I mean, if you want it really dark, 1932 01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,200 it is really dark. 1933 01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,400 They only had one option on the website, right? 1934 01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,400 It was one dark roast, or you could get a cold brew. 1935 01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:34,600 I'm ready to drink. 1936 01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:35,800 Right? 1937 01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:36,320 I don't know. 1938 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:36,880 It's not bad. 1939 01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,240 It's just extremely dark. 1940 01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,920 So you need to mix. 1941 01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:46,160 You need to make a cappuccino or mix a lot of cream with it. 1942 01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:46,880 It's fine. 1943 01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:50,840 I think it's the perfect coffee for after a yacht party. 1944 01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:51,800 Oh. 1945 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:52,400 Next day. 1946 01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:53,000 Next morning. 1947 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:53,920 Yeah. 1948 01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:55,040 Yeah, a little pick me up. 1949 01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:55,680 You need something serious. 1950 01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:56,440 You're still in the boat. 1951 01:37:56,440 --> 01:37:57,720 You're still in the fucking dock. 1952 01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:58,760 You haven't left. 1953 01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:00,240 Thought about leaving last night. 1954 01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:01,080 Am I seasick? 1955 01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:01,960 Am I hungover? 1956 01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:02,720 Is it both? 1957 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:03,560 Right. 1958 01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,920 It's me and 17 ladies on a yacht. 1959 01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,280 I think I might owe them $1,500. 1960 01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:11,240 For their time. 1961 01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:22,040 I think this coffee's for Heria when you need to run shit. 1962 01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:22,880 Yeah. 1963 01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,160 So really is. 1964 01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,440 It's building dreams. 1965 01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:28,880 You're going after them. 1966 01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:29,640 I get it. 1967 01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,560 I get why it's for building dreams. 1968 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,800 You just need to stay awake for like 18 hours 1969 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:38,080 and move a shit ton of crack. 1970 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,760 I think when you have a shit ton of crack, 1971 01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,480 you don't need coffee to stay up. 1972 01:38:41,480 --> 01:38:43,280 Oh. 1973 01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:43,800 OK. 1974 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:45,800 Well, that's our episode, guys. 1975 01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:46,800 Yeah, I'm sorry. 1976 01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,920 I wish I had something nicer to say about the coffee. 1977 01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:49,840 Yeah. 1978 01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:51,200 You know what? 1979 01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:54,200 I think that there's a time and place for dark roasted coffee. 1980 01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:56,520 Like I said, I think this coffee is great with milk, 1981 01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,800 and I think it'd be really good with some vanilla. 1982 01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:03,480 Sumatran coffee has a very distinct flavor. 1983 01:39:03,480 --> 01:39:04,400 So it's kind of tough. 1984 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:08,080 You either really like it, or you really don't. 1985 01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,320 So it's a divisive coffee. 1986 01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,680 There's a coffee out there for everything, though. 1987 01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:16,680 I'm not going to be able to use that say that Goshen GFA 1988 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:21,280 coffee if I want a latte or an iced vanilla coffee. 1989 01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:22,280 That's not going to work. 1990 01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:23,560 That would be terrible. 1991 01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,680 I mean, Sumatra is a really important ingredient 1992 01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:28,840 in Starbucks' repertoire. 1993 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,920 I actually used to drink the Sumatra in Starbucks 1994 01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:32,760 all the time. 1995 01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:33,280 I loved it. 1996 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,440 It was as black as the night. 1997 01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:35,960 Yeah. 1998 01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:36,440 Yeah. 1999 01:39:36,440 --> 01:39:38,240 So that's a time and a place. 2000 01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:39,400 That's for a lot of people. 2001 01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,360 So this is great if you like a darker roast. 2002 01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:42,280 Awesome. 2003 01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,000 And you get to support Snoop Dogg. 2004 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:46,840 I don't know that he needs your support. 2005 01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:49,440 But if you're trying to help the children through Snoop Dogg. 2006 01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:49,960 That's right. 2007 01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,280 You can help out a youth football league. 2008 01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:55,400 Just help pad his coffers a little more. 2009 01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:58,240 And if you want to help out three other children, 2010 01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,280 there's three adult children here. 2011 01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:04,680 You can sign up on patreon.com forward slash no bad reviews. 2012 01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,560 For that, you'll get some more bonus content, which 2013 01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:09,760 we're about to put out here on our Love It or Leave It. 2014 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,080 We've got a couple of episodes coming out here. 2015 01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:13,680 You can support our drinking habit. 2016 01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:15,880 That's always really helpful, because it's expensive 2017 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,080 to keep us lit up. 2018 01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:17,640 Right, Steph? 2019 01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:19,840 I'm going to spend all my money on drugs. 2020 01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:20,960 Please send it in. 2021 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:22,360 Every month. 2022 01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:24,720 So that's how you do it. 2023 01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:25,320 Stick with us. 2024 01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:26,680 We'll see you on the next party. 2025 01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:28,720 And thanks for joining us on this one, 2026 01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:32,680 Indocoffee by Snoop Dogg, Indo XYZ. 2027 01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,400 And we'll see you guys next week. 2028 01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,440 Couple weeks, right? 2029 01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:39,520 Theoretically, if I come back. 2030 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:40,400 Right. 2031 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:41,920 I think you'll come back from New York. 2032 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:43,680 There's a very high cost of living there. 2033 01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:43,720 That's true. 2034 01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:44,200 You're right. 2035 01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:45,440 I'll have to come back. 2036 01:40:45,440 --> 01:40:47,680 Do you really want to live in a 100 square foot 2037 01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:49,400 apartment with your family? 2038 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:49,900 No. 2039 01:40:49,900 --> 01:40:50,880 God, no. 2040 01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:55,960 I didn't think so. 2041 01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,000 We'll find out next week, folks. 2042 01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,360 Did Steph like her trip? 2043 01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:01,080 We'll find out. 2044 01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:02,120 I'll bring some coffee. 2045 01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:02,760 All right. 2046 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,800 I want to hear the No Bad Reviews version of New York. 2047 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:05,880 Awesome. 2048 01:41:05,880 --> 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